This Year's Best Twitter Accounts to Follow

like they used a thumbnail that i looked stupid or a title that maybe sound like an idiot and i was like ben i don't like that it goes oh you thought that's selling out to the algorithm was gonna feel good alright we're live let's do this you wanna get right into twitter or no yeah let's get into twenty wait let me tell you something really quick i just remembered i was gonna tell you about this i did a body fat scan the other day yesterday okay bad news for all of us man why what happened i was fifteen percent why is that for all of us because if you're if i'm have fifteen percent like yeah if about fifteen percent i like that sucks for everyone else i felt like i was like a lemon that's just because people bullshit like people who are like six percent body fat and then like doctors are like no you you are not six percent body fat you would be like you know sick if you were sixty six percent body fat that's just not the case so i think like well people say six to eight percent body fat is actually twelve to fifteen or like twelve to fourteen or something like that and so think fifteen is great i was i was twenty six last time we'd i did a index scan twenty six twenty seven or something like that and my goal was actually i don't even remember what i i think maybe my goal was to get under twenty five i was twenty eight or something like that i was amazed at how high i do it every three months that's good i i was main amazed at how how high mine was it because like i don't feel like completely ripped but i feel like fit like i don't have a stomach anymore and i and it was still fifteen i was shocked all seen the picture if you go to my twitter we've all seen the picture you're ripped you're actually the perfect amount of ripped because you know there's a obnoxious ripped where if you look like man this guy just he's just it's like a girl who's like got like hair extensions two extensions nail extensions and like tons of makeup cake on it's like oh they're sort of trying too hard and it's like a high maintenance person that don't really want like don't really wanna go out into dinner with you because you're just gonna order like broccoli and and you know like raw chicken or whatever so you know you're like the right amount where it's like oh man he might lit live an active lifestyle like maybe he surf and like maybe that's why it doesn't look like someone who is like you know jim bro who just lives in the gym four hours a day and everything centers around that in their life well the point is is that it just shocked me at fifteen percent but i just wanted to to to let you know that that happened let's talk about alright so we're gonna talk about officially cancel as a fitness influencer you can't be a fitness influence at fifteen percent i know twelve is okay anything above twelve i i gotta get my shit together let's see can do you could just do it as the start of your fitness journey is this this am i'm a i'm still a before i i've been now you're before i feel like i've been up before picture for the past five years i'm still a before fuck damn we already said there's before before i'm a before before and there's a before you're before now i'm just gonna you're more like an after i'm now a before but i was it before before just got the another system just got another ranking system it's not about body fat percentage alright let's get into it alright so we're gonna what's the what's the topic of what's the the title of this segment the title of the segment is sam and sean cross one million downloads a month for the podcast they get intoxicated by the growth we're on pace for one point three right now smashing old record highs of nine hundred thousand and with this into growth they say we're gonna h out double down and we're gonna make a list and so we're gonna do list episodes that's what's actually happening here now what list did we decide to start with well we didn't go ultra tantalizing ultra drama filled lists to begin with we're going with our favorite twitter followers so i think we're gonna have twelve twelve is a twelve total so our twelve twitter follows that we recommend now these are gonna be i think in most cases not the obvious people so you're not gonna my goal is even there's a lot of people that aren't even on twitter so if you're not on twitter maybe start or not you know just subscribe to my five tuesday newsletter if you're not doing that if you're on twitter i bet at least half of these are gonna be people you don't already follow that's my guess that's my goal if we do this right so they should be kinda under the radar rising stars and we're gonna talk about why we like these people's feeds and some stuff that we've seen from them that's pretty cool so we'll go back and forth let's start with candidate number one i are we going an order of like best okay so a minor are a little bit more popular than yours so okay are you gonna go how many do you have you have five no i only have three okay i was like researching well no here's the problem i was from sam i was researching i was trying to find ones that people the the the ones i'd love are people that everyone knows but until i was like well you might have to bring up a few i think i bet when i say some you're gonna think of some other just based off that okay so we're just gonna name twelve ish of them and we're gonna go back and forth let's trade it off until sam runs out so i'll go first because you're gonna run out faster otherwise so okay the first person on my lists of twitter twitter people i think you should follow is post market do you follow post market it's post underscore market no do by the way you follow thousands of people i follow up until recently i was following zero people literally zero now it's like four would be cool i just i was getting addicted okay so i have a list and this person on my list so as a post market is an anonymous account and or like a pseudo anonymous account i should say so it's not like a this is not their real name or whatever post underscore market and what we're gonna put the full list in the description of this podcast so if you wanna find them you could do that or maybe what we'll do is we create a a twitter list that you can just subscribe to that that might be easier so who's this person i don't know what they do by day but there's something in the financial world you know a trader hedge fund person i don't know what it says exactly in their bio but basically what they do is they have like hot takes on the market and not it's not like hot takes like cnbc where it's like oh you know the dow is up five point say it's like basically they'll take a stock and they'll just rip it to shreds if it doesn't make any sense so like for example the like one of their one of their ones that they were killing right now is something called the called grove collaborative i don't know you saw this it's like a it was like a d brand it was like one of the winning d brands there's was a unicorn it goes public and then here's the tweet it says please make it stop here's a mostly d c organic cleaning products business it's doing six percent revenue growth at two billion valuation has no plan to make profits anytime soon and a greater than five percent five x sales multiple grove collaborative not gonna make it and then it basically pulls out things from their like investor presentation that show like a fairly so slow growth low margin business that is over valued what is growth from celebrity make i've never even heard that they're kind of like a subscription almost like a whole foods costco type of model where you can go by products from them i believe and what our what valuation are they trying to get i was not trying to get their they're publicly traded at you know to two billing or whatever yikes okay that's they're fine i'm and so and so this person because they're synonymous they can just kind of talk about whatever they want they're not really they don't pull any punches and so like they'll go after they'll go after like chu off for you know most most people are kind of afraid to like poke the bear in a way but cha off in reality had a bunch of really shitty specs where he made a bunch of money and people who invested in his backs on the whole like just got ripped to shreds this year and and so this post market account will like call out basically bad stocks bad behavior across the board in the stock market so i like that like for example our buddy mo tweeted something he goes honest company went public in twenty twenty one it raised four hundred million that day the shares closed at a valuation of two point seven billion since that day it's lost two billion in value and is now worth less than eight hundred million and then he says public markets to brutal be careful if the ipo and post market replied and said public markets are not brutal private markets are a facade and it's like i i like the i like the yeah the hot takes i like the intelligence and i like that they don't pull punches alright i like this one yeah i'm gonna subscribe i'm gonna follow alright i'm gonna give you one see some of mine are popular but i'm gonna give you three examples of why i like them ram sat you file ram remit on twitter i don't follow actually i do a follow them on twitter yeah so there's we came on the pot i there's two reasons why he's amazing the first is when people criticize him hill sometimes say that's a good that's a good criticism other times he'll be like no you're an idiot for these following reasons right and he also that's reason number one so he's an entertaining foul and reason number two is he tweets out loads of personal finance stuff and he'll find an article that's going viral and if he disagrees with it which oftentimes he does he'll explain why bullshit for example a lot of people particularly people who aren't necessarily wealthy have financial advisers who charge one percent and he'll tweet out a whole thread about why that's total bullshit and you shouldn't pay one percent adviser the second thing everyone talks about buying a home and how it's a wonderful investment and he'll tweet out this awesome math no buying a home not an investment buying a home is like buying a car or something like that where you should just use it and not do it for financial reasons because more often than not it's not a a good investment at all and finally he's got this really quick tweet on how to automate money so i actually linked to it in that sheet and i actually set up my my accounts based off that tweet so what do you mean about how to automate money what does that mean so click so click i believe it was this one where it says how he like like where the money goes like for example where do do you have your bank account set so like a percentage goes here a percentage goes there or like your your paycheck no you really so where's your money go to but i don't get a paycheck but your you get paid for the hubspot podcast you get paid for your business so where's your income go to straight to a checking account go straight to a checking account then your boy moves it into whatever investments i wanna make really yeah i think you need a rates the set these something because like it should the way it should work is like all your money should go or not you could do however you want all the way oftentimes i think it's easier is your money should go to a checking account and then it takes money out and like let's say that you have a really simple setup put this much in wealth front put this much in a mutual fund put this what do you even use to do that to i i don't even know that's a possibility that you automate the like claw out of your checking into various other services yeah you could do it with coinbase base if you wanna you could do an automatic thing for coin you go okay so what you do is you go in those services you go into wealth and you said i'd like to do a auto saver plan and you just ach connect yeah exactly and you just set it up so it's all automated so it's just like basically like you know based off of your monthly income roughly that you want this much cash in your checking count at all times and it automatic and you kinda know roughly the intervals of when you're gonna get cash and just funnel it into so the one of the reasons i didn't do that was one when i was getting the last thing i had last job i had when i was at twitch one of the major sources of of income was just stock rs issues that were going into amazon stock like automatically so that was already that was already there and i wasn't selling because my basis for when i when we got acquired was lower than the amount at the rs grant and i didn't wanna sell and rebalance because it was gonna trigger taxes on the on those gains as as the price came have you sold any of those shares how yeah i sold a small amount maybe fifteen percent are you ever gonna sell any of them i hope not yeah i'm on that beg borrowed dye shit now so you know that's the that's the that's that new game plan it's awesome right yes it's it's awesome until it's not awesome as well with it's probably the right answer like most things okay i'm just gonna read these ram remit money rules alright have one year of emergency fund cash okay fair enough i don't but yeah you can save ten ten percent and invest twenty percent of your gross income you do that or you do a hire much higher yeah pay cash for large expenses twenty percent down minimum amount a house okay fair enough yes i do that never question spending money on books appetizers health or donate to a friend's charity razor agree completely business class flights over four hours agree completely no limit for spending on health or education agree completely buy the best and keep it for as long as possible i disagree with that really i i either buy the best or buy extremely cheap disposable where i don't have any stress about it because i didn't invest hoping it was gonna be better like a razor it's like a barbell like i'll give you an example for black friday there's just brand called thirty two degrees do you know them no costco they're like the costco brand of under armour or like nike so they're buy stuff from that now is it off they make like they make like athletic wear and it's actually like pretty good but i don't think it lasts as long as lulu it doesn't last like shark yeah like it's it's just not gonna have that same durability but i like their stuff like i like it when i wear it and it fits well on my whatever it fits well for me so i you know for black friday they have this insane deal where like everything goes down like eighty five percent they just like wanna move all their inventory so you'll go by like whatever like athletics you know like a hoodie or like a fitted you know long sleeve shirt or whatever and it'll be like four ninety nine and so i just load up so i buy like almost a thousand dollars worth of thirty thirty two degrees stuff that day you could just see in my floor here there's just pile the the boxes came and there's piles come out like it's as if i'm a wholesaler for them and so i'll buy like fifteen of the pants i like i'll buy about like twenty five of the shirt i like and because of that i don't worry about like a losing anything getting a stain on anything something wearing out like no i i bought so much laundry you have to do though got cleaner for the laundry bro alright alright you're good alright good your turn i know it's bad for the real argument is it's terrible for the environment and like you know fair enough but you know bird gotta fly so here we go he was his last two his last three rules earn enough to work only with the people i respect i'm like i think that's a great rule marry the right person okay fair enough doesn't seem like a money rule but i get it prioritize time outside the spreadsheet what does that mean so like when you're i do i a problem with this all the time i'm constant con i have a spreadsheet with all my net worth and my finances and i'm constantly optimizing it and i'll like do different scenarios like oh in five here if in five years if this happens and we're gonna be here if it goes worst case scenario we're gonna be here therefore we should do this this and this so i'm like constantly tinkering with it and doing i'm like oh three percent if you only spend three percent of your net worth over this many years but it grows by this that means by the time we're fifty we're gonna have this right and gotcha that takes like that's it takes up so much time it's so fun though i see and also this wealth adviser thing so we both have the same adviser but he doesn't charge us any fee right correct no we he only gets paid if we buy some of the funds that he's gonna sell us right okay fair enough it's pretty sick right i think that's kind of a hack i think that's that's a pretty good hack i think it's a great deal okay so let's do let's do another person okay so you got we have post market we have ver meat i'm gonna do another one let me do okay i'm gonna give you a a double a double dose because they're kind of the same same type of account so my buddy george mack and then there's this account called marketing examples do you follow these no what is this one marketing multiples so marketing examples this guy i would say is one of the best content creators on the internet what's the handle i think it's just marketing example is it good is harry's marketing example so there's this guy harry harry dry he works with us sometimes i think we we we i discovered him a long time ago and we tried hiring him and it didn't work out but we're we love him yeah i i really really respect i don't know this person i don't i don't know him well i've dm him just kind of show in respect i don't think most people know him he's not like widely he's young respected him you know there's like the circle jerk of like we all kinda like the same things and the yeah the same circles i think he's like eighteen or nineteen yeah i think it's probably a little over that but if he whatever he is he's amazing his content is so good i i i think most people when i see their content i'm sort of cocky where i'm like i can do better if i like if i wanted to i can do better i see his shit and i say oh i should be copying things he's doing so that's like a very very high compliment in my book where i want to copy your shit because i think you're doing such a good job so so i think he's his account really great and and then george george mac is similar and that george mac basically tweets out kind of like cool marketing hacks mental models just interesting stories and it's a georgia really really good as well and he's also kind of like outside the scene meaning like he wasn't he's not a silicon valley person he's not a founder of vc that like is super well connected in this area but i think has earned a lot of people's twitter respect you know he's probably got i don't know what like seventy thousand followers maybe be a hundred thousand i i know what it is so george is really good also so they're they're are the ones i would say to follow if you want examples of what good content marketing is as well as kinda like marketing slash psychology hacks is what i would call them yeah this guy harry dry has some of the best stuff he's like she just basically takes landing pages and he goes this is why this is good and he goes very simple have you seen his his kanye west thing what did he do i remember something like ben pull this up go to go to the kanye west story dot com i think that's what it's called so basically this is like a blog post that he just like tricked out it's like exhibit knocked on the door and was there to pi his blog and maybe i got the domain wrong maybe it's not it's the kanye story dot com yeah the kanye story dot com and it's basically this epic website blog post that's just like a scrolling story about the day he got in touch with kanye west and how it all with them and so it's like it starts it it starts with this like epic photo of kanye that you scroll it it's like a slide it's like from lying and bed with with zero ideas to negotiating with the biggest superstar on planet earth and then it's got this little like outline on the left it's like the idea going viral coding it launching it reborn billboards yee and then it's says that are those the chapters of this story and he just tells a great very simple you know hustle story but i just love this like domain the way he designed this blog again this guy's an artist and i'm like i really respect him and when i come up with it i think i like use him as one of my mood boards of inspiration of like something that i'll i'll copy or else i'll steal inspiration from at the at the least this kid's amazing yeah he's he's twenty five years old i was way off i think when we i wanna do something i wanna like launch something with this guy i don't know i i i my new thing is like i find people who are just awesome and i find an excuse to collab with them and i would put both george and harry in that bucket alright your turn alright we're gonna go with the pessimistic what's this called the pe what's the whole one the pe archive that's what it's called the handle is like just pessimistic pessimistic arc so basically what it is is it's incredibly fascinating because it's a twitter handle that looks back at history and brings up topic that people complain about today so for example there's a a tweet from november sixteenth nineteen eighteen or a news article and it says i would rather spend the rest of my life in jail than wear one and it's talking about a guy who doesn't wanna wear a flu mask and then there's another example of someone saying like oh here's a quote from martin luther king saying like you know there's too many books out there people are trying to write too much and become famous and it's basically he's talking about like influencers and it's kinda funny and then this is great there'll be another one where it's like technology is just gonna kill our brains and they're like referring to like a telephone and so it then it's real and until if you read just the tweet part you would think that they're talking about now but then they show you a different ear and then they show you a a picture of the article and it's from a newspaper from the eighteen hundreds and so it's kinda cool because people complain about the same shit all the time and so you'll think like oh our country more divided by divided than ever or like the wealth gap is like crazy or right same problem it's like same that it's like yeah all those things could be true but like oftentimes people think it's worse than ever before and maybe that's not the case because people have been complaining about the same shit forever like okay there's one with school shooters and it's like the you know these guys were addicted to books and they were reading these these gory books and that's why they shot up their like their local town instead of video games are blaming like this on the novel the dime novels whatever those are and it really and my takeaway here is to two things the first thing is that we react this oftentimes human beings react the same through for for centuries and if you study why people react the way they do you can begin to predict to predict this and so if i can if i figure out in history what have been some of the common reactions to action x y and z i can kind of look into the future and or at the present time being like okay i think people are gonna react by doing blank blank any blank because that's just how we're wired the second thing that it does is it like brings you to like senses a little bit we're were like okay i need to be calm people have complained about this literally for a hundred and fifty years and we're doing okay and so that's interesting and i was reading this book human nature by robert greene ben i don't know if you read this snap maybe you could tell me but i'm almost positive somewhere in this book i that they said that one of the very first bits of written language that they found was of people complaining about the younger generation and how they aren't gonna keep the cultures that the old or keep the traditions that the older generation has created you know what i mean is this idea of like old people complaining about young people being lazy like one of the very first evident pieces of evidence of of of written language it was a story of complaining about that so anyway yeah i like seeing those patterns so that's mine yeah that's a you know what's what's the phrase history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes yes and that's that's like what this account is you know in a nutshell there's some really great ones on this i have a similar stash in my swipe file that i've been keeping for for years i i kinda forgot to update it recently but it was called smart people saying dumb things and i would anytime somebody who is clearly smart and successful said something that was very wrong so for example you know warren buffett was very very dismissive of like you know certain technologies what you know a bitcoin today but before that you know internet technology stocks that he just didn't understand that he didn't understand them and so therefore made some discouraging comments or like ray dal predicting like a crisis in eighties yeah or you know steve balm laughing and say you know and he's tackling and saying nobody will ever buy a thousand dollar phone like they just don't get an apple know apple will fail or whatever so i did that partly because there's like in the moment there's like a junk food fun of it which is like yes wrong you know there there's a joy when when somebody successful is pointed out to be very wrong about something but there's more than that the real reason i did it was to remind myself that like it's very easy to kind of go into hero worship mode and to idol utilize certain people or put them on a pedestal and just because you're smart one thing doesn't mean you're smart another or just because you're right a doesn't mean you're right all the time it's a very important lesson because i made big mistakes like for example i think i've missed out i bought tesla stock very early on i think i bought it under a hundred dollars a share and i think if you if you adjust for the splits i think it's now over like five thousand dollars share so i think i i would have made about a five million dollars on a stock buy that i had really if i just held and there and the reason i didn't hold wasn't because i wanted to take profits it was because i got spooked by first there was like a lot of people at at a given time they were called tesla q do you know about that was that the thing where they said that like the it's fake like the factories fake but but is that the factories are fake but that there's sort like fraud deception that the fundamentals don't make sense and that tesla is gonna go to zero test tesla josh wolf the guy like spreading those yes exactly so josh so the those mostly anonymous accounts on twitter and reddit and so i'd read it and i was like okay i'd i always wanna learn what is the other side i was so bullish on tesla did this at this point tesla wasn't even anywhere near where it is today right and so it was like okay you know tesla's gone from ninety dollars a share i bought it to three hundred eighty dollars a share great but like you know i still think it's got a lot of room to run and and i was reading i i always wanna know what is the what do people who disagree with me saying what's their argument do i do i believe it and so i read it and i like there is some weird stuff like wow they've gone through twenty five cfo like that sounds strange like why does the cfo keep leaving and like the people would have this like drone footage of like parking lots just full of tesla that they're take like why are they stash tesla in these parking garages just look at this every car in this six door car garage is at tesla why is it here why are they are they faking deliveries and sales like what what is this so there was a lot of like if we took if there's fire was there any truth in any of us honestly or here's my honest stake i actually think that there was a lot of truth to what what was going on i think that and the reason why i say this is i don't think it's as bad as they said but i also didn't don't think it's as good as tesla portrayed it meaning i think there actually was a period of time where tesla almost died it actually almost did go bankrupt because of like this the combination of the production ramp up was going too slow they had the production line was not moving fast enough the subsidies were there but they could have gone away and like all this stuff and i think there was like a lot of kind of like you know fake could until you make it going on there and elon has even come out and said in the past he goes he was talking about when when clean tech was big and the government was giving money to this thing is called s or something like that and he came out and he said same thing happened with en where it was like five weeks before it went under they were like not just saying everything's gonna be okay they were saying everything's better than ever and he eddie elon came out i was sort of like what do you want people to say he's like you know it is in the incentive of somebody of the captain of that ship to go down with the ship and the whole time be saying oh we're so close to our destination basically he was like they're never gonna come out and say yeah we don't know we might not make it because then that will guarantee you don't make it because people will sell the stock it'll put so much negative pressure in the company it'll hurt the morale inside the company and so you can't ever come out and say i don't know we might not make it so you always have to say make it of course we're gonna make it we're thriving and like you just hope it actually comes through he said something to that effect in an interview once i read and i was like i feel like he's describing what actually was going on inside tesla that's amazing so anyways the long story short it was i didn't believe it didn't believe it didn't believe it i was sort of like reading it but i didn't pull the trigger and then josh wolf disguised very very smart guy successful vc not an anonymous twitter egg account who's like just shorting the stock and trying to like spread fear he was really shitting on it consistently for the course of a year and at some point i was like you know what will i regret more selling the stock now and taking my profit if i'm wrong or seeing all these signals and not like going with what seems to be mounting amount of evidence how much did you buy and guess what i was wrong tesla becomes elon becomes a richest man in the world tesla becomes a six hundred billion dollar company i bought it in a six billion dollar valuation or something crazy like that and so you i missed out on a fifty to a hundred x you know somewhere along the way and and so yeah i do regret i actually turned out to be wrong i i would have regretted more this scenario happening but it seemed improbable wait so you bought a hundred grand worth of tesla stock i didn't buy a hundred grand i think i bought like i don't know i don't even know what it was it wasn't a hundred i don't think those that's not what i was buying back then because this was like i i was like twenty three years old or something at the time i it it was a long time ago and basically i think i bought like thirty or forty grand of the stock at a certain price and i because i remember doing the math and thinking okay they're valued at like five or six billion now what is ford gm value at okay they're valued at twenty five billion okay on one hand that seems crazy that they're only five times the less one they deliver like two hundred times less cars but i was like i really think like the cars are gonna go electric that these old fucks are never gonna switch and he's got this like vertically integrated it's like actually a battery and energy company it's not even a car company and this was before self driving so people wasn't what was a good pick yeah but you know you if you get it wrong you get it wrong so egg on my face and by the way on this note of the the pessimistic archive i saw this youtube video that was i don't know if you heard about this few years ago elon musk negotiated a very unique compensation package do you know about this yeah basically he gets some crazy bonuses if some crazy goals happened yeah so he had he had set up this thing where he gets absolutely it's his entire compensation was tied to the the market cap of tesla and like it was at fifty billion i think at the time when he had done it and it was like every fifty billion dollars increments he was gonna get more and so i was like gotta if i get this to a hundred billion then i get x i get i think he would get like one percent or two percent more of the company each time i i i i i should didn't know we're gonna talk about i could've have mapped it out but basically he was in to get a percentage more of the company for every fifty billion they go up in market cap as they also have to hit certain like revenue and earnings at that time and he would had no guaranteed income so basically if tesla just went from fifty to ninety nine billion he would get zero during that time and he had five years to do it and the top of the compensation plan was if they became a six hundred billion dollar company that he was gonna become like he was gonna get this he would own like ten percent of he would own some ridiculous amount nobody would get unlocked for him and he would be essentially the rich span the world and there's all these there's this clip of air and what's his name andrew so or whatever his name is the guy on cnbc fast money or whatever of them they're outlining the plan and they're laughing they're just laughing at they're like i don't even know why they included these tiers like for tesla to get that would be yeah there's no way and they're all laughing they're like there's no chance and they're like this is such weird thing why did he do this and they're like basically laughing at him and saying how outrageous the top end of it was we're just made no sense like both to do that tesla would need to become like the fifth most valuable company in the world our third most valuable company in the world and they're like that's ridiculous but i guess y aim high i guess steve no guaranteed compensation of any time if any kind at all he gets some salary cash bonus equity he only gets equity that that vest over time but only if he reaches these hurdle rates which are dare i say crazy so right now the company worth fifty nine billion dollars mh they run at fifty billion dollar increments so if he gets the company to a hundred billion dollars you're just talking market capitalization not based on revenue based on the number gonna be production there's gonna be two metrics at each step so the first step is he has to get the company to a hundred billion dollars and reach these operational and adjusted eb and revenue number if he doesn't get either of them he gets nothing that's kind of a weird way to break it down based on marketing gets to a hundred fifty and has to hit the operational numbers i mean the market can be irrational as so each fifth can't control that at each fifty billion dollar number he collects one percent of the company if somehow magically he would get the company to six hundred fifty billion dollars which is literally what the plan calls four if you can believe this he would collect the equivalent of about fifty five what a billion dollars in conversation otherwise he gets absolutely why if i you get it to six hundred zero billion dollars in then meeting sure enough he he's like i think he just hit it or he's about to hit that that last final thing and sure if he's the richest man of the world now that's badass bet on yourself i i need to go well if you're him alright i'm gonna tell you a a handle that would have helped you so you know who rin holiday is definitely right yes ryan holiday is an author just kinda like a personality but mostly an author and he does stoic some stuff and i included him but i'm gonna actually tell you the one you should file so i like ryan holiday because he's got these things that are not business related but help me in business and help me in life and so he's got five lessons from seneca seneca was a the greek i actually don't know what he was here's a philosopher and so they are we suffered what was he i think it was greek i didn't look up it was roman ben thank you we suffer more or five stoic lessons from seneca we suffer more in imagination than in reality associate only with people who improve you the greatest remedy for anger this is the best one the greatest remedy for anger is delay nice value your time more than your possessions and death is not in the distant future we are dying every day and he's got these amazing things that i love badass but he's got this other twitter handle called the daily stoic i love the daily stoic and they just like tweet out all these like interesting stoic tidbit his right it's his brand it's his and it's incredibly useful this stuff is like it's one of the s systems is one of the few philosophies that's like actively it's practical and you could use on a daily basis and so i like filing this account it reminds me to do certain things so so correct me if i'm wrong so i had heard about stoic from ryan holiday tim ferris a bunch of others so i go i buy meditations by marcus aurelius i sit that start to read it and i'm i'm sort of just trying to understand what the heck is this philosophy and there were some things i thought really cool like the tweet like that tweet you just read out those five prints like that resonates with me but there was like a part of it which is sort of like field neither the highs nor the low it seemed almost like a philosophy and i think i'm wrong so i want you to correct me it seemed like a philosophy which is sort of like feel nothing yeah and i think that you're your seem very fun why do we why do i wanna feel nothing so that's my big that's my actually a a really good criticism in my opinion of stoic and it's my criticism of stoic which is a lack of joy and a lot of stoic this is be a steel arm steel manning by the way a lot of stoic will say no like there's joy like if you read it differently there's room for joy they never say you can't have joy and they're not wrong but oftentimes it's how to deal with pain and misery and the idea is basically you accept the fact that you're gonna come into contact with a bunch of idiots all day who are gonna wanna hurt you and steal from you but that's okay just you do like a negative visualization right you like imagine things going wrong which again just feels very not so fun for me and not the way i have not not that's not a formula that's worked for me in fact the exact opposite has worked for me that formula has worked for me actually so what i do is like alright today i've got cancer i can't get out of bed because i'm like harsh you do this every day i do it a lot or be i'll be like look like like if i'm feeling sad i'll be like my i just got my leg cut off like i can't walk i wish i could get it unto sports and then i'll be like wait a minute i have both legs i'm don't feel sick let's go celebrate and exercise or you know what i mean or like you know i'm happy my dog is not dead and i'll go and and make me appreciate him yeah it's called negative visualization i think it's incredibly useful there's a there's this is this is to me i i will disagree with this there's a this to me is the argument of well there's kids starving in africa like in any given moment you could just sort of remember all there's kids starving in africa this kid starting in africa i my boyfriend broke up really well at least i'm not kept starting in africa and and i i get the utility of it i've used it myself but in my experience i've learned that it's a bit of a roundabout way to a destination of gratitude and like you don't have to go to feeling the stress and the pain and the suffering of bad in order to feel the grateful around the good and so i found it i guess my personal experience has been i think it's a roundabout way to gratitude and like i might as well just go straight to gratitude don't need to don't need to think about all the bad things think about about all the bad things that could happen and go there this it's not been useful for me i remember like when i get a sore throat i always feel this way and i i get like a toothache i'm like i wish i could go back to the days where my tooth didn't hurt like if you're out like a toothache thick is like the most pain you could be in or sometimes and i'm like i like i you're like i i don't remember like sometimes that my if i the women who have given birth or like when what's the fuck talking about but like do is the worst pain you could feel or like like it my like whenever i get ear aches and toothache things i'm like you it's like like this internal pain it's like i can't make the pain stop and i just have to deal with it until have an appointment in three days and then you get like two days in and you're like i don't remember what it felt like to not yeah feel this pain and so i got into the habit i be like i be so thankful if i could if my throat didn't hurt today and i just swallow food that would make me so happy and days when i don't i'm not sick i try to think back i'm like this is exactly what i wanted i wanted to feel happy that i'm not sick today and so i i think about that stuff all the time so anyway ryan holiday and the daily so stoic is a good follow europe alright by the way i know we didn't do stoic justice for people who are like die sorry people are like i don't think it is no emotions i think it's like more subtle than that but but that's a really good i think your criticism great which is like i think it's what a lot of people run into excited and then they're like wait but wait is this what i want yeah i like where's the roof for fart jokes you know what i mean i'm gonna give you two niche experts they're in different niches but i like them okay so i should link their accounts here for you to this first guy i don't know exactly how you say his name his name is avi bot and i'm gonna link you his twitter it's avi bot and i'm gonna put it what do i put put it on that we have okay you got it so this guy avi avi roll bot he is a venture capitalist in india and his blog is a junior vc dot com this guy puts out really really high signal stuff around what's going on in india like for example he has a tweet that he put out yesterday or or that that was india now exports more software a hundred thirty three billion than saudi where exports oil a hundred thirteen billion we are the india is the largest engineering population in the in the world what an amazing story that's come come out over the last forty years how'd do you find this guy this is the bet this one's the best one the this is the most helpful one on the list yeah and so like i i do a lot of investing in indian startups and i was like okay if i'm an investing in new starter so i'm not on the ground i'm not the like local domain expert so what did i do i invested in a fund i became an investor in and a somebody else's fund that's india focus like okay i'm gonna get insights from him and i can bounce any deal off him to see if he wants to participate and maybe he has a local view that i don't understand and then this was another guy that i thought it was really smart so i wanted to find who i wanted to basically see who's the thought leader in that space and then how do i subscribe to them and so his you know his like blog i think has fifty thousand subscribers now so he's not like you know no name but he's very niche and he talks about kinda like the indian tech scene and what's going on you know at a macro level or whatever so i found this guy be i think it's doing a really good job of content creation so i'm gonna pick this guys one niche is there such a thing as this for china i'm sure there is actually this is this is a good idea i should just like find this person for like lat for europe you know for different parts of europe for for india for china and for australia maybe this none be this guy this guy is a valuable position to become super valuable there's this guy named bill bishop i think his name is bill bishop had a newsletter called stein i think it's called do you don't talk about no sino cy i don't know what that means cy s i n o c i s m for a long time he was the most popular guy on subs and his entire newsletter is it's called get smarter about china and you just tells you about the business of china and you could see all like the latest trends coming out of china it would be really great arbitrage to do by the way if you yeah instead of trying to compete in the same pond as everybody else like go provide a really useful bridge into one specific market or one specific geography like i i i told the story before i think but like one of the most influential people in my life was his teacher named lisa k at duke university and she taught this class called getting rich and her story was she graduated was the name of the class this name of the class yeah everyone take that it was the it was one of the hardest classes to get into because it was a great name great title right so you already know this person not just like every other professor like she understands like her customer her market the second thing was it was she was the highest rated professor on like rate my professor dot com and greatest thing she had a chili pepper next to her name so she was like hot too it was like oh it was out everything so i i wake up it's five in the morning we go to the library to get on the highest speed internet connection and as soon as the course listings open up we like jumped on it and we got into this class and i go in and she with she tells her story she goes actually i was a student that duke ten years ago or eleven years ago whatever it was she goes i graduated with a degree in mandarin because that's just what was interesting to me and at the time everybody was making fun of me actually she was older than this now but she had started teaching back when she was like thirty two or something now she might be forty two or fifty two or something like that but she goes i graduated with this degree all my like friends were like good luck with that you know how's that mandarin degree gonna you gonna help you out and get a job here because i'm a i'm gonna go to med school i'm gonna be a lawyer i'm gonna be a consultant like what are you gonna do with that chinese degree and she's like well i bet i get a job in china and i like what and so she bought a one way ticket just goes to china and she just starts waving her hands she's like hey people in china like i know english i know companies in the west and i would love to learn about you and then i'd be a bridge and she became a bridge based between companies in china and companies in america if an american company wanted do business china they would do it through her because she like could translate the not just literally the language but like she knew who to talk to she became like the local expert there she be and this like to me this guy on twitter he's my bridge and didn't low knowing what's going on in the scene in india and so what her story was she made a killing doing that because it was really valuable companies in china really wanted to do business with the companies in the west then she invested all of it in the tech in the tech stock market she's like oh i can tell tech companies are the ones that are doing well so she and then right before the bubble burst she pulled it all out to be like i wanna do real estate now and she like she just timed it perfectly accidentally invested all in real estate from two thousand two thousand eight for the real estate crash happened she took out again because she just wanted to do something else with her life and basically by thirty two was retired and and like you know was like what i wanna do i wanna go teach and teach kids what i wish i knew back then how wealthy she got i think she made like you know few million dollars at least and like you know probably like five seven million dollars and like you know she she lives in in durham and she teaches at school i mean i no idea but what was the class of total i'm totally guessing so the class was basically it was you know like ram said that it was like personal finance which is like like you probably need she wanted to teach what she wish she learned when she was in school she she's like i wish they taught you about how to manage money so she would show us like the power of compound interest over time like why you should save early and versus saving more money when you're thirty versus saving even a little bit of money when you're twenty and then like what is a mortgage and like how does that work and like then so and then every other class you would just invite in someone who made it like someone who's successful financially but doing a completely different thing just to expose you to like look there's like fifty paths dude this like this podcast pretty much yeah one would be this girl who started t shirt company licensing university logos and she would tell her story then she she got jamie diamond on the phone and like jamie dim is like you know the head of whatever or whatever and like then then she had this hedge fund guy san francisco come and he's like yeah i here's what he's like he surveyed the rim he goes do you guys use microsoft or apple products and they're and people are answering he goes he asked like three questions and we were like why did you ask that he goes because then i'm only gonna make one decision this year and it's whether to invest like hundreds of millions of dollars into apple or not and hey he's like so all i'm doing is i'm just trying to figure out what is the right decision on that i was like whoa that's a job that's a that's epic and he he had said in his when he was in the glass he goes by the way all you guys are gonna just have the same resume he goes you're all trying to do the same thing you're all trying to get grades and then like these internships he's like so the first three fourth of your resume think about it it's gonna look the same as everybody else in this room like i'm not really gonna be able to tell a difference he because goes the only thing that's gonna differentiate any of you is that bottom section where it's called other like other interests he's like so at this school everything's gonna teach you to like work on that top three four of the resume in reality you should be working on the bottom the bottom fourth of that resume because that's what guys like me look at everybody's got a degree everybody's got good grades everybody went to a good school i've never i told you about the bottom fourth of the resume no what is that that's so funny that use you even use that fraction i always tell my when when i own the company i would say i just care about the bottom fourth i'd always say just dump this laugh and i would always say that and i'd be like of the greatest people would ask me how do you find good writers i was like well here's one real easy way ask him about the bottom fourth and they what you mean i was well just it doesn't matter what they studied in school ask them okay so you made in philosophy what's your favorite of philosophy class or favorite philosophy teacher and if they can't tell me a story about something that they spent four years and hundreds of thousands of dollars on then they're just not gonna be a good writer because they're not interesting enough right and so i would always ask about the bottom fourth of the resume for all types of roles because i'm like if you're just if you can't entertain me for this conversation and then you just don't have any passion and i don't wanna be around you right that's amazing okay so maybe this becomes one of the the core frameworks that's a that you know one one person saying it that's just a dot two people saying it that's a line i interviewed i got that from a gold brian goldberg who founded a bustle and he has this amazing article and he says it's headline losers exist stay away from them and it's basically like how to only hire winners it's from pan from years and years ago and he's a brilliant writer but he doesn't write anymore kind of a loose canon but it was titled losers exist how to avoid them and it talks about one of the best ways to ask about the bottom forth and if you're a you're a loser if you can't like be passionate about something that you spent four years studying no dude this article is gone it's it's it pan you know like pan died let me see if there's a cash version there is a cash version okay we we're we're back in luck the headline is losers exist don't hire them yeah awesome okay let's do let's do a couple more i'm gonna give a couple quick ones okay this other person who i think is a niche expert is this guy willy wu do you follow him no i'm looking them up now i'm following all these people the the indian guy the best one so far but let's get at willy wu yeah i don't think you like this one because it's very crypto specific but this guy willy wu i think the leading crypto analyst and you know in most things like these people who analyze charts stuff like that they're like it's a little bit like horoscope they're like look the trend is going this way and like if you draw this t shape it's gonna be the iron cross pattern and like you know so buy bye bye and in crypto there's one unique thing which is that all the data is there's a lot more transparency all the you know everything that's happening is happening on a chain on a public blockchain chain so you can actually go analyze it so like he looks at all these metrics that are like you know it's he won't just look at the price for example there's things like what is the actual average buy in price because it's one thing for the price to go up or for people to like not be selling because they bought it in twenty thirteen and they you know their cost basis was like five dollars and your cost basis now is fifty thousand dollars so it looks at like want the actual price people buying in what is the average price people bought in for and that tells you like if it's low versus the actual price you're like okay you know it's mostly you know it's mostly just like same coins and old hands versus if it's higher you you realize that people are buying in at the current price levels and that's pulling the average up and so there's there's a whole bunch of things like that like coin age like our old coins moving meaning like if og g believers start selling that's kind of a signal like it's like when a ceo start selling their stock it's like away why are you selling your stock that doesn't seem quite right what's the reason and so like when a bunch of old hands start selling that's actually a signal that comes before the price changes it may it may not even affect the price yet but it's a indicator of something to come damn i just follow them this guy got all kinds of analysis and he's a lot more reasonable so crypto is full of especially crypto twitter is full of like just propaganda artist and they're good at it they're like they will make you believe that some random fucking n nxt is the hottest shit because it's like one guy controlling fifty five bought accounts and they're all replying to every tweet that uses the word you know art with like a link to their freaking project this there's so much propaganda there's so much noise and there's somebody like just believers who if you if i if if i just go out there to today and i say my price prediction for twenty twenty two is six six million dollars a coin i'll get a bunch of attention because people wanna believe that like number's is gonna keep going up and so this guy is a lot more reasonable like he's still obviously a big believer he's super bullish on bitcoin and and cryptocurrency in general but he grounds it at least in like real analysis and i find that to be quite valuable alright i followed them i think that's cool is he what what what does to he like actually make predictions yeah he'll make predictions but it's not he's not like doesn't get just like intoxicated it which was just prediction of prediction it's more like let me explain the way things are moving and then when a move happens he'll explain what actually happened who actually was it a big one whale dumping was it a lot of old hands selling what's causing this bear market and he'll say look there was actually a lot of leverage in china and those got liquidate and that's what drove the price down and like you can get an explanation for like what other flies feels like pretty arbitrary price movements that's badass s alright let me give you one yeah ro i actually don't know how to spell ro last name or say ro last name it's d h a r so this guy founded this company called price economics you remember price yes i've followed this guy this guy's good okay so he's interesting price ny was interesting we actually recruited a bunch of people from there and i love that company i don't know if it's really around more but it's just a blog but his new like started as a side hustle now it's kinda like a full time thing and i actually showed you two examples it's even sue is commenting on it and this guy he owns i think twelve or ten or eight somewhere in that eight to twelve range he owns eight single family homes in new mexico in california hawaii wherever and you can go and look and he'll kinda show you where they are and i'll show pictures of them and he rents them out on airbnb and sometimes when his kids are on vacation are not school he'll go and stay in his homes and he reveals all of the numbers and all of the updates so on december six he tweeted these are my monthly mortgage payments on each of the homes in my small portfolio vacation rentals another one is he'll say like you know currently we're seeing this type of occupancy rate and we actually just added a surfboard to our house in hawaii and we noticed that we could get more money for it or something like that right and he takes screenshots and he shows all of the revenue that he's making as well as how much money things have cost cost him to buy and he'll even do things like recently he posted a couple listings he's like i think i could turn this into an airbnb and he'll just like link to the red fin house listening and he's like i think i can get these numbers so it's actually really cool to see him in real time make it all happen yeah i like this this is awesome i didn't realize that he was doing this this is it's kind of new yeah he's been at it for a while he's been at it for now his new shit because he's doing it for six years but don't think he was i don't think he was as public about it he wasn't as public about it he was not as public about it but now he's like all in on it and it's so fun it's a really fun handle to follow because sometimes his properties are like a quarter of a million and he puts down twenty percent so he puts down or sometimes even less i so he'll put down like forty or fifty thousand dollars on these properties and that's pretty attainable for a lot of people and so it's kind of interesting right okay i have a okay let's do a couple funny ones okay have you heard of this account james friedman it's f jamie zero one three was it on this list no so what is it james friedman f james friedman or i don't know maybe friedman but it's f r i d f i d m man no who what so so he is he's got two million followers he's definitely popular he's the photoshop guy so basically people will photoshop like hey james my boyfriend's wearing this calvin klein foot the same calvin klein t shirt in every in every photo that we i take with him can you just remove the the logo of calvin klein and then like he he does the request but he doesn't he's not actually just photoshop it it makes it hilarious so like this very visual so you know you need like youtube to be able to see what i'm saying here but like he photoshopped the the his guy's wear at calvin klein shirt of like it you know it just says across the chest calvin klein jeans and so he like photoshopped it with that ripped off so that little section ripped off now you can just see his chest and it sounds like fucks it actually like fucks up the photo it doesn't make it good like the girl wants and it does calvin klein tattooed on his chest now instead of on the shirt and so it's like like people will just be like you know you know we here's my wedding photo but we forgot to wear a mask during our wedding photos can you photoshop a mask on instead of photoshop a covid mask and put like you know the green mask from jim carrey like the mask on their face so it's just like people request it and then he does the like he does the request but he does it wrong in a way that they're not happy with but be like you know my my arms look too big here and then he'll make them like i'm absurd tiny or whatever and so just hilarious like i followers he's like i look funny with one arm and then so he just or you can't see my other arm so it looks funny with just one arm and so he just deletes the the the second arm instead of versus harmless yeah exactly i mean i think he has like a book or something like called the joy of photoshop it's it says asking the wrong guy for help this is awesome this is club i've never seen someone i'm gonna follow them you wanna go do wanna do a few more quick funny ones yeah let's do another one we have a friend nikita beer he's pretty funny in like the tech world what do you think this count hilarious he's a shit head yeah i'm actually amazed that he does some of the stuff that he does and that's why i like him well it's kinda like the donald trump rule right which is like you say one offensive or weird thing you know you're canceled but you say all offensive and weird things you're you get like you know you get the pass how did it get away that's that's the key is like if every post makes fun of something that's cool if if only one does then you're an asshole all of this stuff is making fun of something so i think it's a great follow and it's profile picture is hilarious yes it's probably a picture is is good alright we wanna do one more yeah okay i like this one i don't know if you know this guy i don't think you do i don't know if you'd be interested in mean his name is bob what's he do so story is kinda crazy crypto guy so he's he's actually he's transitioned from being the the the one thing guy to the next thing guy to the next thing guy okay so he started off he got famous because he was a big sports better and he famously one year and i think the year two thousand like just absolutely rake it in in vegas because he found an arbitrage that he could bet on and he just like milk it and he realized that like i think it was something he he's had a few of these or he bi phase you find he would find inefficiencies in the sports betting market and that's how he made like millions of dollars so he found like one year of that what they would do is let's say that that they would have an over under a total points for a game and let's say it's two hundred points for the game now vegas is like weirdly accurate with over under like they will get it like so spot it'll come down like the last possession and like it'll flip over under so they're very good at doing that that doesn't seem like there's much of inefficiency there but like in basketball what happens is that the first half of of basketball you just play and then you go to halftime time but at the end of the game there's often this situation where the losing team will start foul the winning team to like stop the clock make them shoot free throws and then try to like they're trying to make threes while the other team could only shoot two for those at of time so what it led to was that the second half had more points than the first half but vegas had the small bet called the they would take the over under and it would say you could bet the first half over under and it was just dividing it by two so it's like dividing the total by too so the total was always really accurate but the the first half over under was under priced it was oh it was like too frequently too too high so who's just betting the under so he'd find these like little inefficiencies much he mean certain ref are really foul prone and so he would know that okay when that ref is ref this game that team is gonna score more than their normal average and so he he would analyze the reps so nobody was analyzing the reps and he would just bet for a whole season on just the ref and he actually un uncover i think he figured out before the nba uncovered that that ref tim donna was like cheating basically because like who's was always weird shit happening on that guy's games and he and so i i'm i'm para because he doesn't like totally out his whole strategy but like he's talked about it before like you know the lakers in one year were undervalued in a way and so he was able to bet them so he made millions of dollars doing that and i think he then he became then he gets hired by an nba mark cuban hires him to be his like secret weapon for the map yeah but he worked there for a few days right no he worked there for like a year or two and then he famously you know left or left slash got fired this year he left but like an article came out saying everybody in the company hates har barrack bob because he has mark cuban ear and like you know he has too much power for like his like random position a special adviser and stuff like that they made him seem like this like master puppet here and then whatever he left and now he's like big time and he's been in he's been big time into crypto recently and so he's just like the intersection of all my like sports betting poker gambling nba games and like nba personnel stuff franchise management and now crypto and so i just think this guy's like kind of a baller degenerate a gambler type of and he kinda looks like a shit head so i like them automatically and and he's not afraid to talk shit because he's not like employed by you know somebody or whatever so you know he he basically like he's kind of like a one man band which i think is great i think those people tend to be the most interesting because they could speak their mind and he's kinda like a shit head to generate gamble types so he's got you know the sense of humor that you find when you run those circles which is like you know part like smart alec because you're just like actually really fucking smart and clever and you're finding like the edges but also part shit head where you're just like you don't mind just make a fun of people and calling them dumb this episode turned into like the slum dog millionaire of twitter where like we named we named ten things have been a it's super in depths story on each one and why it's interesting yeah yeah that's true actually it's more about their back stories than their twitter i it's gonna be cool ben what do you think are people gonna dig some people are gonna love it and people love lists like sean said we sold out but you know what this is a good thing to tell out for because it's a good episode we we had one title the other day either the title or is the thumbnail like they use the thumbnail that i looked stupid or a title that maybe sound an idiot and i was like ben i don't like that it goes oh you thought that selling out to the algorithm was gonna feel good yeah i had them change the title also for the episode it came out it was like reveals all his comedy secrets and i was like i don't even we didn't even talk about that like we didn't he didn't even talk about his comedy secrets and you know i feel like that's a guest i'm trying to look cool with man you kinda like making me look dumb in front of my friend i'm trying to look cool with so could can we like change that like you can make me look dumb but don't make me look double front of somebody who i care about it what are you guys friends now yeah we're buddies set great is that's that's pretty a i i feel that's a big a big thing right like your your friends with like a a guy who was almost a hero almost a hero was description well like i don't know i didn't know how much you looked up to but i you looked up them below okay there's there's definitely like a part of it which i think you know is kinda like the embarrassing part of anybody it's like you you know like i find it really embarrassing when people see a celebrity and then they fucking lose their mind and they go and they like take a photo with them and they like ask them for an autograph can you please write your name on this piece were like i mean it's real like pitch move if you think about it it's very strange you know if i had my memory wiped and i came back at a society i'd be like you just did what like they're you know why did you microsoft think that's how i i used to think when i would see people with like trump flags or any other politician flag or they're like his face i'm like it's kinda weird to have a grown man's face all over your body yeah exactly and then like you know i fan boy about u c and shit like that i get super excited so there's you know there's still people that like i still can fan boy about so there's definitely that part of it which is like it's kinda cool that someone someone that's kinda famous is like your friend but that wears off after like i don't know ten seconds or at least for me i'm like this is like a lame feeling the thing i like is that he actually is super helpful like he asked released your question like first of all we was like okay let's take let's take his career and i career completely out of it if you have a conversation with this person do you like them do you get along like do you do they say interesting things or is it just boring same old same old commentary that everybody has like no dude super interesting has really good questions that has cool opinions then the second part of it is are you gonna like like i told you this framework which is good friends consume together great friends create together and so i told him i said dude a dream of mind is to like do like a ten minute comedy set someday like i just think that would be such a thrill such a challenge you know like that's one of the few things that i can make you know make me you know nervous or scares it gonna help is the idea of doing that and so he like i didn't even ask him for help i would never like i wouldn't really ask him for help like dude your time's a lot more valuable but than helping me with my like hobby dream you know like yeah i'm that like kind of out of shape guy who wants to wear the jersey and dr up and down the and madison square garden and like yeah i i want that but like you don't need to help me but he has he text me like really interesting kinda like the stuff i'm you know you you know a nerd about which is like frameworks kinda like techniques tactics of like okay what's behind the laugh or the laugh doesn't just happen you know like there's a there's like there's a there's a there's a way to consistently recreate the laugh how do you do that and so he's been sharing some ideas with me and so you have to ask someone be like commissioner share this tweet or can i share the text i did ask him if i was like dude you should charge for this like this is unbelievable he's like he's like hey don't share my shit i was like okay i'll go to the grave with it and then b so i haven't told nobody no not even not even my right hand man i don't don't don't even let him take a peek then the second part was he's like you know there's like this feeling in like in comedy and and like acting which is like you could teach it but like if you teach it that's sort of like this like signal of like i i couldn't do it so it became that acting teacher in you know new york or whatever and i think there's that same thing in tech which is like oh you like teaching it because you like you couldn't make it as the operator i think there is that stigma in tech as well but much less so because in tech people figured out if i start blogging about my shit and tweeting about my shit i get my reputation goes up i get better deal flow i get to invest in better more bad companies it's like actually strategic right and it's not like that with me versus like a fall back plan well i'm very eager sean to hear about your friendship with with this famous comedian i'm fuck you fuck you for doing that congratulations tell asking be fred asked on to to tell you a text on why that was funny yeah for some of us it's natural yeah dissect that buddy alright that's the episode