The guy who gets paid $80K/yr to do nothing

alright sam i gotta tell you about this there is a guy in japan who i read about who is making eighty thousand dollars a year for doing nothing i feel like got rude world to know i could be what i want to from at all in in like a days off they called him but do nothing man have ever heard of this guy no what you've read about this well i originally saw it i don't even know i saw it somewhere and i was fascinated because what happened is this guy was at work and his boss called him a do nothing man and like it was insulting him as like dude you you just do nothing you don't really add anything you don't provide any value and he says that he thought to himself and he goes is there value in society for a man who does nothing and he went online and he posted a tweet saying i'm car i'm starting a new service it's called rental people who do nothing and it's basically was like i will be a companion a friend who will do nothing so what this guy does is you rent him out and he'll go hang out with you and he says nothing it's pretty much a silent companion completely non physical non sexual basically an introvert for hire and so what people do is they will either they have a task they need to go do like an errand they need to run or they just feel really lonely and they just want somebody to have some tea with them and he'll come and he'll sit and he won't really say anything and if you ask a question he'll give you a simple answer but it's really just the presence of another human body and this guy made eighty thousand dollars in a year renting himself out and he then he wrote a book a memoir called rental people who do the man who didn't did not or rental people who do nothing and he's continued to do this now for a years so he did it before covid that covid hits so we couldn't do it and then he started to back up again and now he doesn't even charge for the hang he used to charge sixty eight dollars for a session and now he just says just cover the food and travel and then i'll hang out with you for free so he travels around and he gets paid to go he gets paid for his food and his his his event tickets and all all the things that people wanna do with them and this is what this guy does isn't this fascinating what i'm i'm reading the comments on his good reed account for his book what were the reasons why people wanted to hang out with him well so this was pretty fascinating so i was wondering this too i was like why is there a need for this and i guess in japan there's a loneliness epidemic it's kinda crazy they have words for this that we don't even have words for us so have you ever heard this term like hi mori you know i haven't i've not heard that term hasn't it come in connecticut no i i've not heard that word before that's a new word for me so it's a word that they have or severe social withdrawal it's total withdrawal from society so typically that's kinda like sell in the states so typically it'll be it's mostly men who are living at home still in their parents home but they are completely rec close they don't work they don't socialize and there are like estimated two million men in japan that are in this category for six months they basically have not engaged with anybody in society so that's like kind of one problem this growing trend of hi mori and then there's another word i think it's ko which is it's basically death without being cared for so it's like older people who are dying and then they find their bodies like five months later because they were so socially isolated that nobody knew that they passed away and this is like number that in the last ten years has doubled like like seventy thousand people died this way where they're found weeks or months later and this trends are all like very concerning so like in japan single person household so you know no no wife no no family members no friends just living alone by yourself is now thirty eight percent of the population which is it that's like triple where it was like on a five or seven years ago they appointed a minister of loneliness in japan because this has become such a big problem and so this guy doing this is almost like a an art statement in a way about this to bring awareness to this huge problem that people are just really freaking lonely in japan everywhere but really in japan it's even more heightened dude let me explain something to you it's very similar to this and i'm gonna i wanna hear your opinion of this premise that i have and i also i think it's a good premise i think a lot people can learn from so i don't live in austin anymore i went and visited it again for a wedding and i realized how lucky i was to have a community there of just the the best people on earth they i can serve in family dude i saw your live laugh love post where you posted a picture with your friends and you said this is wealth and i thought he's not wrong he's not wrong but he's also not sam part what is going on this is wealth what new era have you entered i've i've i did a very special era and let me listen it's weird ever it's heavy a kid the things that i thought i cared about i don't care about as much and so i realize i'm kind of like going all into this like emotional side of like caring about others whatever all that stupid shifts yeah but listen so we really can't even say it it's like hers to say this sentence but we we believe it yeah so before so i basically lived say francisco and i moved from san francisco to austin my best friend at the time neville he lived there and i had this conversation with him before i moved like neville i'm thinking about moving to austin one of the big reasons i'm moving is because of you i wanna be with you and be near you would you be willing to wanna be in you i wanna be in you you can say you can say know you're going with that one yeah it goes a better way than than that one way and so if i do this would you like commit to like us like living a life together like with our families and like and that sounds weird but i did that and it worked wonderfully so we had there was about four other couples where we had this conversation where we're like let's live life together like you can count on me i'll kinda knew whatever and when you think about that that's strange but if you really dive deep it's actually not that weird because that's what you did with your girlfriend probably like you're like hey so should we put a label on this you know what i mean and you do a girlfriend for a boyfriend and then you make it a huge ordeal to where you get engaged you get down on one knees and there's like a a there's like a big like epic thing where like you were boyfriend and a girlfriend now you are officially a fiance and then you get married where you basically you know talk about about yeah you take a vow in front of people who have flown from around the world to witness this vow and that's normal but we don't really do that with friends and so i've have recently moved in order to be closer to family and so now i'm trying to like develop friends at a new town and i'm starting to go to them and i'm having this formal conversation and it it it really weird people out right away by the way obviously but after a few minutes the men in in particular they're like oh i kinda get this and kinda feels nice it kinda feels nice to like talk about how we're gonna do life together or how we can counter each other or like to set you know to find religious saying they're let's what let's let's make this real so what what you actually saying so here's what i'm saying what i'm saying is with this guy about in in in japan is experiencing is this lonely thing and you're talking about people living by themselves thirty eight percent of the time and about people dying and for weeks not being found what i'm saying is i think a lot of people experience loneliness and i think one key way to get over particularly men men in particular once they approach their fifties and sixties you basically never make a new friend again just like you never go to the doctor you don't go to dentist this and you don't make new friends but i think there are ways around this and it's around having these formal conversations and in particular one extreme example is to move places just for for the sole reason of like this friend being there do you know what i mean i know exactly what you mean i guess what i'm saying is what is the conversation you're having with people especially new people so i get the the neville one because he was already a really close friend from san you guys he was in san francisco right that's where you guys originally deal friends no he would sped his suburbs in san francisco and we would like hang out and then he would go back to austin because awesome was there so you guys were already really close and you're like hey i wanna move there and i really like kinda moving there for you or i wanna move right really close to you and like let's do life together and i'm a big fan out of this i i've i've said this before one of the most impactful things that's come out of this podcast was a guy named mike brown came on the pod and he said i was asking about going into business with his brothers and he goes well that's to me that's the point of life you you find the people you love and you do life with them and that became like a a very simple operating philosophy for me so i i'm a definite but deep believer in that what are you doing now with new people because i'm curious how that conversation goes when it's not somebody you've already been friends with for for five or ten years i've only done it well once so far and i just kinda like i hope they're this thing dude it's weird like it's definitely like it's definitely weird but i'd be like hey so you know i'm looking to like have like close friends who i can rely on and i wanna let you know that like you are that to me right now where i hope i can rely on you for important things and i'm let you know that you can rely on me for stuff and like whatever i have it's you can use whatever i have i got your back no matter what and i know this sounds weird and everything but i'm gonna do life with someone and it seems like you and your wife my be that person for me and my wife and i make jokes about it and i realize how silly this sounds but it was actually really great did me feel really good this is like how swinging starts so so actually i a a sort of related story one time i was doing a angel investment a deal by the way we need we need a word for this you were saying in japan they have a word for need a japanese word for we need a japanese word for this because when you don't have words to label these things we needed to define this word it's gotta be explicitly heterosexual explicitly not involving swinging it's gotta be like some type of reciprocity or like i'm willing to give more than fifty percent to this relationship you know what i mean like this idea of like a good relationship you'd i'd be willing to over give so i just went to google translate i wrote male friends i don't have sex and it says s no ot tom so i think that's the the phrase tom for short alright what we say about angel investing so was i was trying to do an angel investment this was maybe he added a twelve years ago or something and i had no money and i wanted to invest in this company and i'd finally realized like oh i have friends who have money and i could probably go to them and i probably pitch them a deal and if they do the deal they'll probably give me a little piece of the of the of the upside if it works out and so i go to our friend i go to my buddy sue and i say hey i wanna invest in this company he's like alright great let's do it i mean he's like cool so for the economics of this like how do wanna do this and i was like i don't really know what's the norm he's like well the norm is probably this where you would get you know like ten fifteen percent of my carry but you know we could do whatever you want and i was like well no i just wanna make sure you're you know it's fair i'm just kinda thinking of transaction like i wanna make sure this is fair like i don't wanna i don't want this to be you know one side or to the other and he goes let's make it one side in your favor and he goes i don't care what happens on this deal what i care about is us doing deals together for the next twenty years and first of all it was not just hollow words because he was giving more action on the deal to me that he did not need to i wasn't asking for it he just you know did that on on on his own the second was the way he signaled that like hey i'm looking for twenty years of doing stuff together was kind of intentional and new in a way that i hadn't really heard and then i started doing that with other people so when i met up with ben and i was like hey you wanna do this project today together was like yeah we did a project together went great i wanna do another project together we did another project together it went great and i like hey let's start a business together but i what i told him was i was like i think you're awesome and i think we work really well together i want to like i wanna be in business for twenty years so let's basically only make decisions that will increase the likelihood of us doing this together for twenty years and that really changed the game so that one little way of being intentional that this i want this relationship to go beyond this transaction this this moment in time and saying like i think you're awesome and i wanna be doing so with you for a long time that has really helped me or change the way that i viewed things but also the way that other people receive it because then they know they they know that i'm putting my foot forward and saying yes i think you're awesome and i could see us doing plenty of things together let's do this for the long haul which i think settles everybody down and gets everybody out of a sort of selfish or short term mindset just bunch of guys being dudes you know it comes out to we just it's just as much of us guys we wanna be dudes you know maybe tom okay let's just see rose you wanna that okay so here's some i guess like related things to this so so back to this guy by the way this is cha warren about it so this guy thirty nine years old look at his twitter his twitter has four hundred and twenty thousand followers he's gotten like very famous off of this he said that before covid is was making three hundred dollars a day so he's doing another the sixty eight dollars a session what whatever and he was just going to coffee shops and playing video games and doing you know random stuff with each other dude these hard it's twitter's is harder to these japanese tell you what they got a different word for everything so his service is called rental people who do nothing so i started thinking do we have this year because loneliness and this is not a only a jet only a japan thing obviously it's everywhere and actually there are some things like this so go to rent a friend dot com i don't know if you ever see no you know what sean i'm proud say haven't actually been on this website yet friends seeking friends okay so now type in like just type in san francisco and click search and then you're gonna see just like a huge list of totally plato friends who are down to hang up and just have a day together it's pretty wild that there's this whole i didn't even know this existed it's craigslist for friends it's pretty pretty cool right and it actually has a lot of traffic that you know this is a little su there's a lot of pretty women with full body shots on here yeah this might be like i found a laundromat and i'm like this place is doing a huge amount of business and it's like well it's not just a laundromat right like they're they're laundering other things besides clothes here like so i i don't know exactly the the social norms here but i'm gonna take it at face value that this is rent a friend that is truly for for friendship and i've read some articles of people doing this and what they said was they were like you know it was actually in some ways kinda nice to have just someone on demand that i could go do this thing with maybe a plus one for an event or go to a concert together or whatever is i didn't wanna go by myself but i still wanted to go they're were like but the other side of it was it had us like weird dynamic i was like wait by the way does rent a friend mean i pay them money yeah you pay the money to hang out sean this is like where you get a hooker this like there's valerie odd here is like at a bikini if she's twenty and like really good looking it might be but i read this article on like whatever v or whatever somebody went went and they did this so they rented a friend on this site and so they what they said was they were like yeah it was a you know i paid for this person to come hang out with be they're like you know one of the things and they talked to them about like the other jobs that they've done they're like yeah a lot sometimes for older people or it's for you know somebody who's you know just sort of been very busy with work hasn't really developed their social life and one of the things that they talked about was like it made me a more rude person because they're like oh if i'm paying you then this is all on my turn i'm gonna we're gonna do what i want we're gonna and they're like there were some downsides to like there's upsides of wow this companionship on demand and on those other side there was some downsides which was like the power dynamic was off it you know i was too aware at least the journal was like i was too aware of the the the the differentiation so that's one one business there's another one that you probably heard of have called papa do you know papa no it's papa this is for your grandparents so it's basically a lot of people have you know grandparents who are alone both they're both lonely but also kinda need help like maybe the little errands that they can run or somebody to help them when they're going to the store just in case anything happens or to make you know a little easier to move around and this was a silicon valley startup that was basically like you pay for yeah none this you pay for basically i could task grab it specifically to help the older people and it's something less than kinda like a live in live in care but it's more than you know me once a month calling my grandparents and so that's this company was i remember when this came out it's sort of this crazy idea and it was backed by some investors i remember alexis han and the guy who created reddit it he backed it he said something like you know there's eleven thousand you know boomers that are are retiring like every day or something crazy like that some becomes huge number and he's like the you know our our aging population is growing very fast so we're gonna need services that are gonna help them and this company is valued over a billion dollars oh i'm looking at their funding they've raised hundreds of millions two hundred fifty million fifty million yeah soft bank put a bunch of money into and they were valued at one point four billion and it's literally a sort of like on demand companionship for older people dude have you ever met a a sugar baby have i ever met a sugar baby i think i have but i don't know if it was like official or if it was just like a like you know there's like this the website or it's like this is an official arrangement and then there's like you know just the they just happening in the wild so i think i just met someone is happening in the wild so there's sugar daddy dot com where you like go and you meet someone and it gets a lot of traffic and i was talking gotta go incognito for this one let me just make sure i don't get targeted for ads for the rest of my life i was talking to my wife about this the other day because she somehow knew someone who was a sugar baby or or and i think there's like reality tv shows about it too which yeah you definitely have seen because you guys have like the same tv taste but but i actually think that this is like a fairly fair trade as long as it's consensual obviously but i'm i'm shockingly on board with having a sugar baby like if you're if you're an old guy you just wanna and like a lot of these guys they literally just want a companion they just want someone to be there for them and things like that and it's not always like you know as weird as it sounds it's no different than wanting to rent this japanese guy to come hang out with you yeah and you know i don't really have any judgments on this like i don't i've never experienced this i don't really know the lifestyle try not to be you know too judgmental things i don't really understand what i'm fascinated by is just this phenomenon and again like i remember when i first moved to silicon valley i met the guy who's the first pm at twitter and he i asked them him i was like ben the that amazing you picked twitter really early on there's only fourteen people there or something like that at the time how'd do you know like was was it obvious that twitter was gonna be a big deal he goes no everybody thought twitter was weird stupid useless just like a strange thing to do and he goes well i remember when i joined does somebody asked me why he's joined he goes because you can't deny the phenomenon meaning when you observe people doing a behavior that kinda makes no sense or seems odd seems strange seems weird to you the natural inclination is to push that away and be like oh that's that's stupid that's weird and you sort of resist it and he goes as an investor or somebody you know in in where where we worked in the technology space you wanna lean into the phenomenon you wanna understand wow why is it that people are watching other people play video games twitch right why is the people are just texting out to a random group of strangers what they're having for lunch twitter why is it that people are getting into strangers cars instead of tax uber right like the why are people sleeping on other people's couches instead of hotels airbnb all of the biggest winners tended to be these weird behaviors things that's you know either broke a social norm or sounded a little sketch and once you sort of wrap that into you know a more safe and acceptable behavior unlocked a pretty big market and so i've always tried to have i've i've tried to learn to have a more open mind about this stuff and so would i be surprised if the way that getting into people's you know sleeping on couches or getting into strangers cars like would i be surprised if companionship as a service like totally non sexual companionship as a service was a big deal i would absolutely not be surprised because i think that probably by default most people are are lonely than they want yeah and i actually think that this is not a new phenomenon i think that the it's a phenomenon it's a thing that's always existed now let me get let me get biblical on your ass i was i was raised catholic so i went to catholic school my whole so i had to read the bible all the time did you ever read the the story about jesus and i was like carrying the cross up like the hill or something to like you know to be executed no it didn't read that one well yeah yeah i know it's like part of culture a little bit but like there's at one point there's like a line where like these professional women or these women who are professional i think they call whale but basically these women who are hired to come cry at a funeral to grieve to make you feel like you're not the only one there to grieve for this person and like he like dismiss them and he's like you know don't don't give me get this out of here get get his direct quote was like get that north since out of this out of here so like no but i actually think that is a thing at funeral home by the way a funeral homes where like you have like a g who will come and and make fill the room you know what i'm saying but these types of things have been around forever and so i don't actually think it's particularly a new phenomenon i think we've always felt this way now there's just interesting platforms to help solve the problem right right it's like those there's like these marketplaces now online to rent a crowd it's like oh you need a a crowd people who either love you or protesting you push this button you'll i'll get you thirty thirty people in a crowd today right and you know politicians use this and brands use this like it it's a it's a it's a easy technology beta it easier to coordinate by the way there's a great tweet have you seen it where he's like hey i'm willing to show up looking like a mob boss at anyone's funeral enrolled just so your friends and family feel like man you really had some shit going on that they didn't know about it's dude i bet you the rent a friend ceo or like company they're listening to those podcasts and i was like oh that's so cute sean thought that we were just so you could meet friends and friends and air quotes oh yeah by the way if it's not friends that's just me being meek na old me just sucker for for for for whatever you tell me okay i i believe in humanity there's hundreds of thousands of people right now collectively saying oh can i tell you about another thing that i saw that i think you might have seen as well because it happened at a u event a few weeks ago i've been meaning to talk you about this yeah what did you see at the recent i think it was at the sphere event did you see a very interesting advertisement on one of the on the post during the u are you familiar with what talking i saw what you were talking about but i don't know enough to like rip on it i mean you explain it and then maybe remember i'm watching the u paper view and it's their first event that at the sphere in las vegas and i heard you bought tickets for it yeah that's another story how i i actually ended up paying fifteen thousand dollars to not go to the sphere which is a a big l for me like you made a fifteen grand for tickets so speaking of friends i was like hey let me buy tickets for the sphere that i heard dana white talking about it and i was like oh wow he says this is a one done it's gonna be something like you've never seen before blah blah blah so months ago i just go online and i buy six tickets to the sphere i think it was like after the ticket master was like twenty five twenty seven grand or something like oh my god alright and then i emailed a bunch of people who i haven't hung out with either ever or recently and i was like hey do wanna come to this event and they're were like yeah this is awesome and so some some said yes some them said oh i'll try let me let me see if i make it because there's still months out and then a bunch of things happen a two of the people couldn't make it for like medical reasons the card for this sphere got way worse than it was supposed to be i got way worse i myself had just gotten sick like the two weeks prior to it and so i'd like had just come off of like not being helpful at home to like oh wait now i'm gonna go on a trip to las vegas after this not really the best game plan for me and the ticket prices dropped like crazy so we ended up selling the tickets for like you know a third or something of whatever i paid for so yeah not not a good win for me but a great story that i got to tell her so that was that anyways so then i'm watching it on tv and i see on the post behind all the fighters that says invest like a politician invest like a politician but what is that that is a kind of an amazing hook and i really realized oh this is that app that i've been following for a little while this guy chris he's behind this app called autopilot and he came and he or he went on twitter and he explained this thing that they were doing this stunt that they did around the so they they sponsored the invest like a politician but they did a lot more than i just think it was a badass marketing stunt that i was did like the the tesla the cyber truck so so check out this thread so look at the photos in this and if you're listening on audio go to youtube and watch this thing because you've gotta see the clips of this alright so what they did was they hired so i guess the the premise of autopilot i should say is it's a ingesting app but it's kind of like you basically pick who you wanna follow their portfolio and you will invest it's like let's say i wanted to just mimic warren buffett portfolio or i wanna mimic you know some famous traders portfolio i could do that one of the traders that they follow is nancy pelosi whoever everybody kind of knows is you know a a legendary trader in her own right and so what they did was for the sphere event they found a fake pelosi imp do you see her there they find her on tiktok and they hire her and they put her through hair and makeup and then she she ghost to they fly her to vegas and she goes to the event and before the event she starts interacting with all these influencers so they go get mike from you know the impulsive podcast yeah and she's hanging out she's playing blackjack with mike and then she meets to put the milk boys and the note boys they're like holy shit it's pelosi and they're playing blackjack with her and then she gets then she's in the crowd when shi sean alley walks out she's in this hot pink pants suit power pants like pelosi and it gets freeze framed and everybody's like holy shit is nancy pelosi at the u and all these people are tweeting about this and then doesn't look like her at all this that model or actress is way better looking it's like hot pelosi yes actually kinda like sarah pal and pelosi together it's to what they got because nancy is like eighty years old or something so yeah this woman looks is like legitimately a model but go ahead so then they got a a cyber truck and they wrapped it and it says pelosi twenty twenty four and it says invest like a politician autopilot and they drove this around las vegas getting just hon at and there's all these like tiktok of people taking videos of this pelosi twenty twenty four thing and if you look at their google trends they go from like nobody's searching for them to like you know it's spiked and hit one hundred percent interest on that day of the event and basically they were like yeah we just took a risk spent a bunch of money on this and let's give it a go and i just thought it was a amazingly well done marketing stunt did he say how much he spent on it i didn't ask of that so i did talk to him he goes he said we pulled it together in three weeks we had the pelosi idea we came with a bunch of research they searched the tiktok from first went through agents found an actress they hustle their way into you know getting kinda like collab with the health boys and mike during that event because they knew where they liked to gamble so they kind of arrange for them to bump into each other and look like we got a bunch of downloads it's more what he said was he goes it was more expensive than just if we had just run you know facebook ads but you know our view is that we're trying to like build the brand and make a statement about what are we all about and that we believe that over time this is gonna pay off and if you've seen they've done this actually in a bunch bunch of interesting marketing so they did the pelosi tracker on twitter which has i don't know hundreds of thousands of followers they have a instagram account called politicians politician trade tracker which has seven hundred and thirty thousand followers and they'll post so like you know like the last post was they had called out weeks ago that debbie schultz who is a politician had made a fifteen thousand dollar trade in her son's name of one random small mining stock a silver mining stock and they had flagged it as like here's a politician trade that you wanna be aware of we you know they don't give financial advice but they just tell you what the politicians are doing and sure enough in a month it's gone up thirty percent this like random small mining stock he mining company so you know called it and and so they they follow these politicians and that's what the whole account is and i think they they tapped into some feeling of like outrage or wrong this that people have about what's going on like why why nancy pelosi you know outperform hedge funds and warren buffett and her you know her trading track record they tapped into this feeling that like this is wrong and they should not be allowed and they're using it for their own growth which i think is great dude have you ao and what's parker or palmer luck brother launch you know who palmer luck brother law's matt gate yeah him and ao have like joined hands for this for like the one thing that they've come together on is the fact that they want politicians to not be able to trade or at least have all of their money in like a political etf or something like that and it reminds being of have you seen that video go viral of ao and elon musk flirting yes so good we gotta play that we play that right now youtube just play that clip it is whoever made this you're an absolute genius i've looked i tried to look up who made this this is like some anonymous account i watch that video like i've seen it a bunch of times and they i rewatch it all of the time is so funny it's one of the funniest things and they need to do they need to do on with ao and this guy matt of them like fake flirting because this the one thing because i think he's pretty far right she's pretty far left and they've come together on this one like idea that politicians should not be able to trade from individual accounts and i think it's pretty funny yeah that's that's pretty wild do you wanna do one more thing what says blue collar side hustle alright so i'm bringing it back an old segment we used to have called the blue collar side hustle of the month and this is the goal here is these aren't the biggest businesses but they're straightforward businesses that anybody could do if you were just willing to work hard and so the blue color side hustle is a saw who was chris corner or somebody like that they're talking about this woman in dallas who has his business awesome porch pumpkins have you seen this the bass the bass wow you're really into this still tell war alright so so the the business idea here is every fall for you know sort of halloween and thanksgiving people like to decorate their front porch with a bunch of pumpkins and what she does is she will do that as a service so she'll bring to your house a package i mean you can go to her website and you could see she's it's a popped up currently sold out but you could see like three or four packages there's like the luxury package which is thirteen fifty so you know thirteen hundred dollars there's like kind of the medium one seven hundred fifty dollars and there's no smaller one for like three hundred bucks and what you'll do is you'll come you'll decorate your front front porch the doorstep all that with a bunch of really cool variety of of you know fall you know harvest type pumpkins and this is all she does and the the numbers that came out was that basically she's done nine hundred jobs that range you know from this three hundred bucks to you know fifteen hundred bucks and the estimate was that she might have done a million dollars in revenue in a year off of off of those nine hundred jobs and how cool is this just a you know a mom in dallas who is going to people's porch and just put that pumpkins and wow you can kinda hustle your way into a pretty cool business for a very small window of time i think that's the other cool part about this is that it's only gonna take place a few months out of the year and then she posted on instagram and that kinda drives the flywheel then people like us talk about this and it gets on the local news and then that she's built to kind of a cool business here and we talked about this last year i think one of my blue color side i was last year was the guy who came and did christmas lights to my house and he did it for you know half the houses in our neighborhood and i realized like wow in kind of a six to ten week period in a this guy probably pulled in you know sixty to a hundred grand of side income just by putting up lights him and and he had one one guy working with him and i think this is the extension of that it turns out that it wasn't just christmas slides you could also do it with fall pump kits and i'm sure you could do it with halloween decorations as well if you wanted to expand into that so to me this is an example of a blue collar side hustle now to be clear i don't think she made a million dollars i think she might generate a million dollars revenue apparently she's got like fifteen delivery guys and like a bunch of other stuff yeah but even she make two hundred thousand dollars i would bet it's like you know a hundred grand is my my guess or being conservative i would sort of assume that but that's still pretty great for what's probably a you work you know two months out of the year or three months out of the year straightforward business that you could do that doesn't require you know any special skills and it's pretty fun you know for somebody who's got you know a little bit of design taste i think this is great my wife's not working right now you know she we had a kid and she's quit her job and like she's thinking of these things that she can do she's like you know i don't i can't commit to a forty hour work week or fifty week fifty two weeks out the year but i i i would love to have a project you know something that i can do and when i see projects like this i'm like that's awesome that could be perfect do you know what i mean and and so she's like looking for projects but you know you can't like you can't commit to a nine to five or at least we can't commit to a nine to five for the entire year but you could for little sprints and so i love ideas like that that couldn't satisfy that need yeah yeah exactly my wife works only on wednesdays so she works one day of the week two works kinda like an eight hour day on that day and it's a super creative kind of job i i can't go into all the pieces was very creative so it's fun it's with somebody she would really like so a coworker comes over they work together for eight hours day she's no lock then she doesn't happen it doesn't spill over so like the next day and the next day after that she doesn't have to like follow through and all the deliverables from the meeting or anything like that and we didn't plan for that but that's we kinda stumbled into but what is basically the perfect amount of work for her because we got three little kids and she wants to be a stay at home mom but also it's pretty easy to just go nuts you know like to just be because it's groundhog day when you have three little kids you you are doing the same routine every single day and as much as you other kids like it is nice to have a small break some project you can put your creative energy into a person that's not your family member that you can get to talk to that day and you know not have to deal with the kids for you know eight hours is is a huge win for her today after this probably like babe what do you what do you know about pumpkins kids open the trunk yeah i love the page everything it's a trunk full of like sixty five pumpkins i love this shit dude i think this is fantastic and i'm sure that there's like some type of like art full like aesthetic or you know like you gotta have like some type of eye but and and it would be silly of me to like like anyone could do this but it definitely seems learn the seems very learn anyone can do this not anyone will do this but but i do think this is not like above you know most people's means to be able to do to be able to pull this off you know what what i would do let's say i wanted to do this how would you how would you purchase you know i would not go into the pumpkin business right away what i would do is i would go door to door and i would have basically like three photographs of what the front can look like what what packages you have and i would just go to door go to door it and i would i'm gonna knock on a hundred doors not on a hundred doors in my neighborhood and i'm basically gonna say hey just wanted let you know i do this for families in in the area i can make your ports look really great is this something you'd be interested in and then try to see does any anybody interested basically if people interested that's the pre order and then you basically go buy the inventory you need to go fulfill just that demand and then as soon as i get some i would take photos of that i would ask them can i you know would you mind if i use this from my website for my marketing they would say yes and if they say yes then i would go to i would now have better marketing material that i would go to the next door with and i would say you know we did this there and i would try to have something if i could maybe one branded pumpkin that's kind of like this was done by the you know the local pumpkin queen or whatever it is right and like have my my my domain on one of them if if i if i could just try to get people to be able to go find me from there and then go up charge them when they fucking start to rot and you gotta get rid of them well there is a there is a pickup or like a cleanup fee right that you do at the end same thing with the christmas lights guys like yeah then you pay you paid me to put up and you paid me to put them take them down and so you get both sides of it i also think that this is one where you could if you ever go read like these p r books that were like local p news jacking so like local news is pretty much devoid of good stories and so you could see this if you ever turn on like your local news channel this restaurant you get you know got flagged for this thing they're looking for you know good local field good stories and so as soon as you get a little bit going and then you could say whatever single mom who's making thousands of dollars decorating their you know their neighbor's porch and so as soon as i get just enough momentum my goal would be to get to the new local news and i would go them and make my pitch for the story and i would try to get you know try to get my story on here for that local news and then what i would do is i would take that that new story right you're stacking the marketing chips and then you could even run ads on that local new story that article in your area dude i grew up like with a big steep driveway and then after there was a small street and then there was like a park and it was it was as if i was like the park was like a canyon and one month after halloween it was a tradition at my house and my parents this was one of the more redneck back things that my father has ever done which was we would take all twenty of our pump kits and we would let them roll down our hill straight running of the bulls straight to the middle of the park and i up until like i was like twenty five i thought it was okay this is if you have like a banana peel or something i'm like you just like fucking toss it at the street like it doesn't matter like me to put our pumpkins kids like at the street like it it doesn't matter right that's not literally turns on it that is literally by the way like you can't like there's like no we're all of like november or whatever there'd be like the twenty built rotting pun in the middle of the the middle let's park and like if you're gonna go play flag football that month like look out for the rotting pumpkins at the par through in the middle of that fucking park yeah you needed the opposite of the new story it's like local family terror park roaring pumpkins again dude know i thought i was like acceptable it like it's like oh just put it back to its home i'm just throwing this telling this fucking banana field all our garbage right in the middle of park where do you wanna go from here i think we wrap this one so we got the drew nothing man the loneliness in this epidemic we have the autopilot marketing stunt and then we got the blue color side hustle that anybody could do door to door alright let's do it that's it that's the pop i feel like i could rule to world to i know i could be what i want to put at all in it like a days all on a travel never looking back