"Sara's List" Update: 12 Startups Where Stock Grants Will Make You A Millionaire

so he lives in india and he is a one man company that makes something between fifteen and thirty million dollars selling simple plug for google docs if you if you have twenty million dollars a year of income now is a huge unheard of some alright we live what's going on alright i got a couple interesting things for you i'm gonna start with this one man company so i got a i saw a tweet i got tagged and tweet a bunch of times same the exact same one and i think we should talk about this because this was very is it the google plug in guy yes yeah so alright so this guy john david's tweeted out a great thread and his handle is real real john david so shout out to him for doing this and he's basically like dude i discovered this guy and let me just tell you some things about this guy so how funny is it that something like this happens and i i know exactly what you're talking about because we i got dms the amount the same people probably dm me that's when you know you're doing a good job where people see something and they think of you i tweeted this out i go people think you create content like a podcast or a youtube channel to become well known right oh you want fame you wanna become well known and some people want that and there is some benefits to that but that's not my goal with this stuff my goal is to be known well which means people know you really well that means when they see something they'll know to send it to you they'll show it to you they'll share it with you they'll invest it with they'll tell you to come invest in this deal with them when you're known well it's because you've put your brain out there on blast people know how you think and so when they see something that they know you'll love they immediately think of you and they come share it with you and so i would say the even if you create content and you're never famous it never takes off and to become well known you will become known well and that alone is a big enough benefit to justify creating content alright anyway so we are known well because these how bunch people tag in this this guy so this guy what is his name so his name is ami ag wall so he lives in india and he is a one man company that makes something between fifteen and thirty million dollars selling simple plug for google docs and google drive into google the g suite of apps this is crazy that that that is that is that is shut dude making if you if you have twenty million dollars a year of income that's like the equivalent of i would have to think about this and maybe someone who's thought about this is gonna say i'm an idiot and i'm getting it wrong but making twenty million dollars a year in income is probably the same as being worth like five hundred million dollars yeah lifestyle wise it it definitely like like it's a huge none is a huge unheard of some so this guy basically he's a he goes to it which is like the harvard of of india he's computer science guy he moves back to his hometown so he goes to the big city he comes back to his hometown and in two thousand and four he starts off as like a tech blogger he's just writing tips and tricks on how to use g suite and he creates a gmail plugin that lets you do what's called a mail merge to mail merge is basically like you wanna email a hundred people the same thing but not in one group email and not even as a bcc because you wanna customize some component of this product and so he created a plugin that just lets you do that in gmail because there's a lot of services that will let you do that outside gmail but like a lot of people just wanna run it inside their inbox and not like use some third party app to send send emails so he creates this thing and that's tactic think his biggest hit but he just starts writing go like you know how to guides on his website this website website's is called digital inspiration and so be like you know how to calculate the percentage score in a google form how teachers can email your parents the email parents using google forms or something like that and it's free but then he has like a paid tier thirty nine dollars a year seventy nine dollars a year to get rid of like the branding and stuff like that email you know go past a limit of emails something so it like that and so his main mail merge thing has been downloaded seven and a half million times and so if you assume like a you know five percent conversion rate to paid he's doing one point five million in ao arr just off of that one plugin and he's got thirteen more plugins so he's got like his whole set of things he's got this document management app called document studio and it lets you create document certificates invoices using google sheets and it's seventy nine million dollars a year six million downloads he's got a notification app at forty nine dollars year he's got ten million downloads he's got a youtube app eight million downloads and then he creates one off apps for big companies like airbus linkedin disney even the us embassy has paid this guy to create custom g suite things just for them like if you kind of blend this together you start doing some estimates like i i i dm the guy i was like hey you confirm what the numbers i don't wanna say the wrong number but i'm gonna tell the story on the bot he didn't he didn't reply yet but he it's pretty safe to say this guy's doing more than ten million a year and it could be as high as twenty five thirty million if you're like really aggressive with how much he's getting from the enterprise customers and but somewhere between ten and i'd say twenty five million dollars is a is a fairly safe bet how does he add and i and i think simple useful things he had a hundred thousand followers on instagram is he famous for some reason like what what's because i guy like this seems under the radar i think his blog has a good amount of traffic so i'm gonna go open up his blog yes so his blog gets about a hundred fifty thousand hits a month visitors month and so i think he probably just says hey this is made by b and then people go of over what's the tax rate in india do you know is it comparable to america or is it way worse or way better or what i don't know but i i remember here got one point that only two percent of the indian population paid taxes really like the majority of the population just simply didn't pay taxes this big problem in india because they're not bank either so it's like there's no way to track things cash economy you don't have a bank account it's like there's like not not exist yeah taxes no it's not for me yeah it's optional but i think that might have changed this was like ten years ago i heard that stat and i was like what the hell so i'm sure that's changed over time dude what a baller you know this is so great i think that the reason it's great is because it kinda breaks your frame on what's possible because he's like when you're in google docs there's so many times where i'm like man i wanna i just do this one thing this just is one very very specific thing and i would never think this should be a product because i'm like it's just me experiencing one tiny issue that if i learned how to program or learn how to do like this other thing it would work perfectly fine and this little you know thing is only gonna save me five minutes it's not a big deal but this is a good example of that not sick i use some of these products are really good by the way now the the paying rate i think is six percent of the population filed the tax return and when was this this was twenty twenty you so you think wow well good for this guy hopefully he's one of the ninety four percent even if he is dude if you have like a million dollars in india like you're a king you know you don't you you don't need that much buddy to just ball out and small down at india like you you you are sent well i like this guy what's the who's carl allen alright this is my billy of the week million dollars isn't cool you know what it's cool a billion dollars this story is kind of incredible also came to me from a a twitter dm the guy's name is kind of like hard to it's not like his real name i wanna give them credit but like you know i don't know what to what to call him his his his twitter handle is euro rep r e p so euro rep he goes i got ability of the week for you carl allen he goes sold a garbage bag company for four hundred one too this is so funny i got the exact one a full time treasure hunter in the bahamas okay so who is this guy you know like i don't know if you watch game of thrones but in game of thrones it's like a song of ice and fire this is a song of garbage and treasure this is this guy basically it's kind of an insane story it it's very hard to even find information about this i don't know if you looked him up but they did a lot the only thing guy like they didn't cover his business they cover the fact that he was buying like a huge yacht which is a great it's about his yacht yeah so so alright so so here's what i do know alright so carl allen he basically he starts off working at this company called heritage bag and heritage bag makes plastic trash bags so like they do it not just like normal trash bags but like for medical waste or like hospital waste but they'll make like anything that's like you know ice bucket liners you know the like they'll make takeout boxes anything that's like mass production manufacturing for for like this really core utility very similar to like egg cartons dot com the the story that we told on the pod before and so medical waste bags is is their a thing he actually started off just like working there and he worked kinda like it's like one of the stories we worked his way up from the mail room he had like one job then he climbed up then he got into business development then became the director of business development then eventually becomes a ceo eventually he buys the company and i don't know how he pulled this off i tried to find this i could not find how this employee ended up owning the company but he did he ends up owning the company and it's a a boring business based in dallas sell you know selling trash bags and he sells it for something like three hundred to four hundred million dollars to i think a private equity firm so they've they've got eight hundred employees they've been around for thirty forty years or something like that and they sell and and so they you know they do this and then he's like alright what do i do with my life now and at the age of twelve he had visited the bahamas and he was like wow i love the bahamas as this just a magical place he always had this idea and so he he looks at this place that this island and he calls up the owner and he's like hey you know are you would you ever be interested in selling they're like no we've been asked before we won't sell this thing it's a ninety two year old woman she's like no we won't sell it some big corporation that's just gonna ruin it he goes no i'm not a big corporation i'm a family guy i'm a family owned i'm just a rich guy i'm just a guy with a handful of yachts and i need a place to park them and basically he he convince this woman to sell they sell fifty years after they had originally bought it he buys this island he turns it into like his own little fishing boating and exploring place so he's got now three parts of his business he's got phil he's got his family office where he invest and now he's got his island business his yacht business is fishing business and he owns a handful of yacht he's got like he his car yacht eighty foot yacht he calls it an exploration business well he's got yeah he's got his exploration business but i think he also calls his investing because exploration was i don't a little confusing but alan expiration i think is is one of him but either way go to his youtube channel did you watch any of his youtube videos is sick yeah the guys the guy's amazing let me tell you story about a young man with a dream a dream of sailing the sea living life with the ones he look discovering all the world has to offer a dream of exploration it only has forty one thousand views it's forty one thousand views and it's basically his channel where he is he believes that there are billions of dollars of lost treasures in the sea he's like there have been three million ship he's like and when something is lost at seats not lost it's just at the bottom like he's like it's still there it didn't go anywhere it's still there and we just have to go find it and he did this because he met some guy who's was a treasure hunter who had made millions of dollars finding treasures in the ocean and he was fascinated by this guy and he's like let's do this i wanna do this and so he started doing this and he's looking for like these treasures where it's like king philip from spain had this like you know armada coming over and it got lost at sea back in the whatever you know the year twelve hundred or whatever and he's like we gotta go find that because there were these like crazy gold things and whatever and he wants to create a museum of the things that he finds and he's found a bunch of treasure he's found this long gold chain he's found like all kinds of stuff down there and he puts it in his little museum on his island into the bahamas and it's just like and it's a public it's a private island i mean he owns it but he keeps it open to the public it's not like nobody can come and so people can come they can visit they can park their boats there all that stuff so isn't this kind of amazing like what a dope life this guy is living it's this is amazing for a couple different reasons one it's so fun to give in to these obsessions so you say like well what's the point of spending your life looking for treasure shirts it's like because it's sick because it's awesome right like it's exciting that's an exciting chase you should do that and it is actually i'm sure there's something like historical value i actually had a guy send me a pitch deck on investing in his like hunt and i was like no not even gonna no way yeah i was like not not a chance like i i don't know anything about this that sounds like this of course this sounds into and i love but like i i have to avoid that but number two i've been thinking about this phrase make the make twelve year old me make twelve year old sam proud and because i remember like making some money and i remember someone being like and i was like was fret over like doing one thing or the other thing and it was an awesome thing but i was like it cost too much and someone's like yeah but it's sick like it's awesome like what what like you know if when you were twelve this is what you always wanted do and i'm like you're right why am i be such a boner i should just do this thing and and now like i do think that's a good life motto which is like whatever twelve year old you wanted not all things but some things you gotta give into those indulge and this guy is awesome i'm a big fan of that well the the we get this question a lot oh what would you go back and tell your twenty year old self right well if you were twenty one again what advice would you give your twenty one old yourself if you hate that question i know you hate that question because i say no they say if you had to start over again what would you do and i'm like i would have done the same thing because that's what i'm skilled at this that's what i'm good at you you want you want me to give you an easy answer like i i don't know what you're good at right and so you're like that's the question people always is asked but i i i'm with you i want the opposite which is what advice would your twenty one year old self give you because it's very easy to lose the plot the older do you get the more responsible you get the more practical you get the more like you get lower energy less risk all that stuff and there's like a version of you that's like i don't know if it's twelve year old the twenty one year old but in either case that like the goal was to have the most fun and do awesome things and it wasn't thinking about like how to save for retirement that's not it wasn't on your mind back then and so i think that for most people the risk is not that they're playing life too risky it's that they're playing life way too safe and that the twelve year old view or the twenty one year old view you would look at yourself and be like oh man i grew up and i got kinda lame damn like i'm just kinda like this out of shape guy who complains a bunch and like you know it's like saving money for when they're even older like dude you're already old and so like you know i i think that for most people they actually need to go the other way they need to have more fun they need to live more child like they need to have just more silliness fun adventure in their life and they need to take a little more risk and play less safe i would say that that is the majority of people and actually people treat it like it's the opposite they think i need they think that the they think the advice is you need to be responsible when you to play it safer right life needs to be more serious and it's like no actually life needs to be way less serious about you ever seen a that one of the very it it's about ten years old so it was one of the early viral youtube videos and this this guy he's in his thirty at this point in his forties he when he was eight he recorded himself saying hey jonah what's going on and he he's like as an eight year old anticipated that he wanted to make a video in his thirties where he was gonna have a conversation with himself and it's you know older in this now at the time thirties jonah having covers there's eight jonah was like hey what's doing on jonah and he's like are you still playing with this and he like held up a toy and he was like and the older jonah was like no i'm not and he's clearly sad and the owner jonas is like because you really love doing this and we love drawing it and we love reading cartoons about this and right now i think i wanna grow up and be a cartoon where i talk about this and the older jonas is like oh man i i kinda like quit doing that when i didn't have time but i actually still love it and it this video went viral and i believe it kinda kicked off his career where he was able to start making movies and cartoons like he used to be into and i whenever i watched that video i get inspired i'm like what would when i was eight like what would you say like well you said you're gonna do this why aren't you right and i and i actually i don't think the answer is you do what the twelve you wanted to do because maybe totally review twelve year old you just wanted certain dumb things or only knew about certain things but it's more like if i was just explaining this to the twelve year old me would they not and be like okay that's dope i didn't know that hopefully you know that's crazy but like that makes a lot of like that sounds awesome that sounds fun versus like just do what the child wants and i think you're you're absolutely right that like people in general the happiest people are the ones who are most child bike do i do one are the traits of a of a child a a child is generally very curious about the world they don't just like think that they didn't know it all right a child is generally like looking to have fun they're looking to play not just work and grind right like you like this i've never heard a twelve year old on that grind set you know like told looking at a play there looking gonna have a blast and like guess what that's what you should be trying to do too and and so you know everything i think about like if i went back to the to the year old me and i was like dude this is our wife and then be like what i yeah like yeah we get to be with her like she she likes me and is and he would be like oh dude awesome like this is so wow this turned out amazing that was like something would brag to my up like dude we pulled this like that would be so sick you could turn sex exactly like yeah dude it it it happened our software is the worst have you heard of hubspot see most crm are a cobb together mess but hubspot is easy to adopt and actually looks gorgeous think i love our new crm our software is the best hubspot grow better you wanna do this last one yeah okay so the last one i wanted to do was an update on sarah's list okay so for those who are new to the pod i back i don't know how long ago is this like a year ago a year ago i was in new york yeah it was a year so let me go look at this video so that we did a a video it's on youtube september said oh almost exactly september seventeenth twenty twenty one is september nineteenth today wow so two you know basically a year to the day we do this thing twelve startups where stock grants can make you a millionaire and this is inspired by your wife sarah who basically it was a self made millionaire and we said oh how'd did she do it did she invent the next big thing did she make this crazy investment that paid off and you're like no she's she just like worked at good companies and like a good job not she wasn't ceo or cc suite she job normal job at a good tech company and like yeah like think about it this way like you know they give you a job offer that will pay you you know let's say fifty k to use round numbers fifty k a year in stock compensation so you maybe you make a hundred fifty then you get fifty of stock so over four years you got two hundred k of stock well if that company goes up five x in value during those four years which many tech companies do it's a million dollars of stock that you got she self a lot of and a lot of these companies will give you at like maybe a hundred thousand dollars a year in stock and airbnb b's case that i don't know what it went up what i think it probably went up five or six times i don't remember and your wife had done this at facebook she worked at facebook she worked an airbnb they she work another one over those weren't than ever lane but i don't think they've had an exit yet and so she had done this and i was just like kind of and is also like dude those were obvious it's not like she was like oh she was one of the first ten employees at airbnb it's like no she joined and airbnb had how many employees it was like hundred not just on thousands right no it was i i think it was either nine hundred or a thousand it was six years ago baby so they they weren't new and do you remember the valuation at that time like roughly it was worth i think it was eighteen i think it was eighteen billion and when they ipo at the peak i think it was worth one ten million okay yeah hundred billion so so let's say five there at at that peak and so anyway so she had done this and i just thought that was amazing i thought this is like the most under reported story in like you know podcast podcasts or tech news or well you're missing the about this you're missing one the big parts was the reasons under reported is it's not that unique you know there's thousands of people who work here there's hundreds of thousands of people who collectively work at maybe it's millions actually millions of people who work these types of gigs way she she's not a program either she's not like a engineer and it's there's not like some barrier that you needed oh i'm i can't do it i i'm i don't know how to code i can't work in a tech company no she's a non technical person she's skilled but she's non technical totally at a tech company and so anyways we were like we basically made a list called sarah's list which was what are the what are the dozen companies that we would bet on today that we think if you just went you got that job you got that stock package that's worth let's say a quarter million dollars today that that can four that could turn into a million dollars over your four year vest so we're gonna recap this and see how we did yes so i have the numbers great idea i have the numbers here so i'm gonna read you the companies and then i'm gonna read you where we were right where we were wrong because one of the companies on here just got acquired so the reason this came up was fig just got acquired and fig was on our list it was number seven on our list they they weren't an order it was just like one of the ones we listed and fig got acquired just now for twenty billion dollars and when we had done the the thing it fig was at two billion so that was a ten x was it really fig was at two billion later like late like twelve months later it got valued at or sorry in between it had also gotten valued at ten billion so it kinda depends on the timing but when we did the pod the last known valuation was two billion i i believe why and so that was their series d and so so yeah so basically that's a ten x from where we were at so you go get that two hundred thousand dollar you know stock package but which is sitting on yeah and it best two more years so two a two hundred thousand dollar stock package is fifty thousand dollars a year which is incredibly reasonable for that's like a yeah more like an entry level that's table junior your position there whereas you can get a hundred k and you might have had four hundred k in total stock that'd be four million that you're sitting on for me it's so hard to make four million dollars in cash like it is not that easy and this is one of the like like you know easier ways to do it so so i think that's kind of underrated alright so let me give you the new company a list we had flex port zapier uni swap and the defense company rep the developer tools company or the developer company air table fig rip open store fair ne health and one trust okay so those are the companies now i'm gonna read you where they were at at where they're where there are where they are now out of the twelve i'll just tell you right now that all but two of them i believe yeah all but two of them are up and the other two it's just to haven't raised another round so we don't know but there's reason to believe where they might be up one uni swap might be down just because crypto has like gone down in total value so you uni swap might be down but as only zapier and uni swap are not marked up so already you're up if you're if you're in any of these and zapier is not marked up because they their whole stick is they don't wanna raise they're like we bootstrap we raise this one run of funny we're not raising anymore until we go public exactly so you're still likely up it's just not marked okay so flex port when we had done it it was at three billion it's now at a eight billion so almost a three x markup okay zapier and swap we talked about okay when we talked about it was a four point six billion now it's at six point six so not not a huge markup but you're up you know whatever fifty percent rep rep when we had done it when we had talked about it i think the last known valuation at that time was two hundred million it raised again at eight hundred million i invested in that round so and and so i know that it's actually worth more today because i get emails and phone calls from these groups that are trying to buy my rep stock they're like hey we are willing to buy five million dollars up to five million dollars of your rep stock and so i think that rep probably valued today on the open market more than eight hundred million but that's the last one they they know not so at least a four markup likely more like eight x is my guess on rep air table air table was at two billion when we did at two point three it's now at eleven so a five x five x jump on on on air table fig my we just talked about two billion now it it's got bought for twenty so ten x rip rip was six billion when we talked about it it's now at eleven so double open store was two hundred fifty million when we talked about it and that was the only inception it was the one that was lowest when we talked about it a as evaluation it's now with seven hundred fifty million dollars what was it what was it started two fifty two seven fifty wow seven fifty fair fair was at seven billion it's now at twelve point five so a little under double next health was at four hundred million now it's at a billion it's a little more than double two and a half and one trust was at two point seven billion now at five billion five point three billion so another another two x pretty good be good yeah alright give my larry david pretty good it's pretty pretty pretty pretty good pretty good keep in mind we've made these predictions at the beginning of like the best tech bull market not of all time but a really good one so a lot of these valuations could be completely nonsense you know like at that time we could've have thrown at a dart board and picked ten random startups and the likelihood that they bought phrases and and now it's down but the valuations giving you the after are all twenty twenty two valuations wow alright so a few takeaways one exponential growth hard to completely understand like just thinking like can this two or three or four x for most people myself included it's it it it's an exercise to understand what you do read the fig read the fig revenue number you have those right i i don't know if i can well they're publicly available they're they're they're out when this deal came out they came out alright keep talking and now find it okay so basically you're right exponential growth is like astounding and so you look at these companies i i've talked about this before where when we were getting acquired we had a chance to get discord stock and i was like oh discord valued at two billion hours was there already at two billion it's like well well we need to believe for first us to take this deal it's like well we need to think that it's gonna get over six billion i don't know its last evaluation it was fifteen billion so even me who's in the in the industry in the space i am a tech investor it's just hard to fathom these companies becoming worth not just billions but tens of billions not just tens of billions but even up to a hundred billion in value that this is very very hard to fathom them here's fig f growth and the reason why this is astounding is because i heard what their valuation was which was ten billion i thought that is ridiculous i heard these numbers right and then i thought that's actually not that crazy so in two thousand seventeen they started charging customers in two thousand eighteen they're at four point one million in revenue in two thousand nineteen twenty three million two thousand twenty seventy seven million two thousand twenty one a hundred million and check this out two thousand twenty two goal and they're on pace to hit it four hundred and fifty million dollars so in the course of six years they went from zero to four hundred and fifty million dollars in very recurring sticky revenue like in their product does everything they they just look at some of those jumps what what were the first jumps so it goes zero then it goes from zero to one two or four four twenty so here's the order four twenty five seventy five and then this sucked a hundred and then four fifty a hundred to four fifty is astronomical that is huge yeah you know i think there's the there's like a a thing in saas that saas investors look for is it's called triple triple double double i don't know if you say that this but like tripled triple double triple tripled well they did more than a triple they did from four to twenty something that's five x so they did more than a triple then they did twenty twenty to seventy five twenty five to seventy five or whatever that then they did a triple for five five triple and then they did double and then they did another double then they did a another four point five so it's just kind of insane crazy so and i'll obviously help by like you know remote work because like fig is basically like a a tool for designers and product people to share designs like you know a designer will send me a mock up i add my comments i can move stuff around i could see their mouse moving it's almost like we're working on the same thing together right next to each other even though we're miles a miles apart and and by the way amazing story this is also another teal fellowship a win and so it's crazy guy started this thing when he was twenty one years old like nineteen twenty twenty one years old and you know was been building this there was like a five year buildup up where he they didn't make any revenue he was just building the product slowly but surely and then got to a private beta and then a public beta and then finally started charging people you know i think the company was founded like two thousand eleven and then it started making money in two thousand seventeen even if i had this idea there is no way five years later i'm still doing this idea in the middle of that by the way there was the ico boom in in crypto at twenty seventeen you know guess or my head would it turned better been like oh well i should be doing that over there right in between then there's like you know just waves and waves of other interesting exciting sexy things that and he just didn't take his eye off the ball they just kept going kept building and and they won so the two more things that are hard to understand the the the first one i said was it's hard to understand exponential growth number two it always seems late so if i bet a lot of reactions if we go and read the comment section was this seems over valued this is already too big you know there's no meat left on this bone it always seems too late and that goes back to exponential growth it's hard to understand so like if i told you like your home that you're in right now might be worth ten million dollars and twenty years you'd be like there's no way and you say well that's just like you know four percent growth for the next twenty years and it's already grown four percent for the trailing fifty years like i was like okay i understand logically but like when you say that number it's quite hard to understand and the last thing which is every startup up we named it's not like they are unknown they it's all pretty obvious shit you if you googled best startups to work at i bet you six of the twelve that we named were on some type of list and granted we're not playing with our lives here we're just naming twelve things and we got ten out of twelve right you know like if you're in that eleventh or twelfth one that might stink but like we're not that smart we're seven point five out of ten in terms of industry knowledge and we got like wasn't that hard yeah totally and so i think i i think there's a couple couple other takeaways with this too which is you said you said it right it's really easy to think you're too late on these tech winners and what i would say is when there's actually a tech winner when the when they actually have the fundamentals they have a great product and they're winning in the market and their growth rate is like you know real these things can get a lot bigger than you think i remember reading when facebook got valued at fifteen billion by microsoft and they had like no revenue at the time very you are they like i don't know maybe a few hundred million in revenue but it wasn't like it just seemed like how big is this social network thinking gonna be and like if somebody at that time was saying and i'm sure there were a few people but sometimes i'm saying yeah this gonna end up being a trillion dollar company i'd be like there's no you know is there such a thing as a trillion dollar company that's insane right like i've told the story before one of the biggest mistakes i made one of the worst investments i made was an investment i made right and that means i invested in tesla and tesla is at two billion and i put all the money i had straight out of college i put it into tesla at two billion and i wrote it up till it was seven billion or something like that and i i cashed out of three x and i remember at the time thinking okay general motors and these other whoever the biggest ones at the time i think they're at twenty something billion maybe they're twenty five billion i don't remember the exact numbers but something like that and i was like one day tesla could be you know half as big or maybe even as big as those companies it just seemed like that was the roof that was the ceiling on how big these could be and then trust tesla went up and became at one point a trillion dollar company now it's come back down to like you know whatever half but my two billion could've have been become a trillion basically in terms what you have made do you think how much did you put in twenty five thousand yeah i had like twenty five grand in it and so much what's that something like that a hundred i i i can't even do that is that i i done the math at one point and this wasn't the peak but at one point it was like i would had six million dollars from that twenty five k it was like a great angel investment and again this felt late like tesla was already out successful elon musk was a he's not what he is today but he was a known person right like i'm talking about this was back in probably twenty thirteen ish felt twenty twelve twenty or something like that maybe we should do another one of these episodes because i think there's a lot of great companies right now that valuations are low where in ten or fifteen years when there's another great market things will be drastically different you know this will be one of those things where you're say in ten years you're gonna wish you would have done what we're suggesting right and we should do another one we should i even had people build me like a website for this like a sick looking website i think we should do this mean you i think should own a a job board called sarah's list and we should just keep this updated and what did you think that i tweeted i tweeted out i was like yeah like i think this it's a great way to make wealth whereas like but like researching these is is a bit challenging and that tweet got seen by millions and not millions of people hunt many hundreds of thousands of people and a lot of really good replies and there were some cool things startups ups that were mentioned and different job boards but nothing where it's like perfect where we're we're right we're we're where i think it needs to be but yeah i agree alright i think that's it that's a wrap