MrBeast: 'I Obsess Every Second of Every Day Until I Have a Mental Breakdown' - With Hasan Minhaj

way i like to work is like i like to go basically wake up ob obsessed over something go to bed wake up ob obsessed go to bed like every second of the day i just have a mental breakdown i'd burnout out and then i like take a day off or maybe a day and a half off and i like to go right back to it so i don't like the work certain days i just go as hard as i can every ounce of my entire body crash alright in this episode we are gonna talk about one second look we gotta let the guy mister beast actually do the intro guys in this we're gonna teach you how to make a fucking million dollars if you don't have a million dollars we're gonna show you in this financing alright that was way better than yeah that's right mister beast the biggest youtuber in the world joined us on my first million and hudson min h is one of the biggest comedian of the world we did have four person pod in person this kind of amazing yeah so look check us out i think sean actually mentioned this on the podcast but about three or four weeks ago he said he's gonna to create this thing called camp m so basically he rented a house a big old mansion in north carolina and he dm like twenty different people a bunch of different founders and a bunch of interesting people but then he also dm mister beast and has hassan and he told him to come i didn't actually think they're were gonna show up and so we were just sitting here at night recording a podcast and they walked in and joined us and it was amazing yeah it was crazy seeing one of the biggest youtubers in the world one of the biggest comedian in the world they kinda interviewed each other and they talked about their creative process what they're self conscious of what it's like to work for them how much did they put into each thing that they do it was pretty nuts yeah it was i mean it was amazing they they made fun of me at first because i was nervous and i was it was awesome yeah was a big deal was awesome so check it out i think you're gonna dig it wait hold on we were rolling where we're not we're doing it sorry if it's not recording you're just not getting it yeah you're not getting dude yeah you give me alright we're like wait what we think this is the most an interesting crossover ever yes yeah yeah why are are the four of us sitting here i have no let's put him on the spot seems the most nervous yeah me now he's like the body language stop yeah you the body language good why nervous because i'm wearing these short goes yeah bro you in the short show also got a live audience here why is why what is this yeah so there's thirty men in this house why why is there a sausage fest give us answers this is the power of sean so here's the deal so the story was is that you wanted to do this and it happened in three weeks yeah i just hit up a bunch of people actually you know what the way it really came together was i just tweeted it out because if you do that shit like you know just it's like a luck magnet and good things can happen and a hundred something people signed up for it scrolling through the names and it's like what's your twitter handle and one of them said mister beast and i was like but but i was like it's a google form anybody could write mister beast i was like i whatever have some jackass but he dean me goes this sounds fun and we don't know each other no at all and he like i was like oh shit that was real oh shit this is on we're gonna do it now and then i was like he's like where are we doing it and i was like where does mister beast live north carolina i was like yeah everything about doing it here duke he's like go gal i'll come then and then i got everybody else in after that to follow him on on twitter well ben from how to take world like retweeted him and i was like who's this guy that i tapped and he just tweeted like five seconds ago i'm hosting an nba camp for like entrepreneur sounds like oh this looks cool one and i just how crazy life i don't know who this is but i mean basketball since and he calls me last week he's like yes i'm coming but like i don't know who you are like well what's your deal and here we are did you do that you just walk around and call people yeah well i just like learning i mean that's how you did did you hear how he got connected with ben no alright so ben over here he is our producer and he hosts this amazing podcast called how to take over the world and i get how did you find it well this is gonna get so many levels you put him on it no one has any idea or even talking about they do because cliff who's sitting there told me to listen to how to take over the world so i listened to it who retweeted his tweet about the camp and here i am you know fun my life story he's like yeah this is don't shit content because on youtube you had to be on point like in the first ten seconds you need to like right people he's like this is their podcast already gone over twenty ways you could optimize this better in my head let's go already twenty ways well that's the podcast guys it's a brainstorm storm so we've we already switched topics like five times and we didn't really hit them with like a hard one at the start like would been better if it's like i don't know like we told some crazy story or something like to hook them or like the for me for the ones who don't know so then like they're like oh now i know i should listened like alright what the podcast for second second intro guys in this we're gonna teach you how to make a fucking million dollars if you don't have a million dollars we're gonna show you in this podcast like something like that now they're gonna listen alright so here's what's interesting we got me and sam mh we got hu min who's was famous comedian netflix special we haven't announced it yeah but yeah sure breaking news it's like we got jimmy k mister beast craziest crossover yeah as a while you guys just met tonight we met like an hour ago yeah alright give me first impressions what do you think of mister bi cool guy yeah you seemed really cool what did you think coming in i just knew he was a a big like prank stunt he's the he's the voice of youtube he's voice of vagina you or he's how you thought he'd be yeah so i thought i feel like i feel like his year turn too i feel like he's like curiosity enthusiasm all that stuff is really cool yeah i i listened to him rogue and it was really he was really fascinating and what about you what was your first impression oh i mean kind of the same thing like it was i mean you were just easy to talk to which i think was very nice like we were talking for like an hour y sean sean i'm just turning this into indian match making so fast i feel like we show you you said ring on his finger his tape yeah dude you said so he said something really interesting to me earlier we're just you and never were shooting the shit oh god what is it and we're we're talking about business i i think i you said elon musk is like you i don't know if you said hiro but you're like i think he's like the pinnacle of entrepreneurship entrepreneurship yeah sure and i was like well what what do are you what's gonna be your spacex or what's gonna be your like big rocket thing you know and you said well elon had zip two when he was around my age so zip two was like his peer filing his peer sharing service had he sold and he made like twenty or thirty million dollars yeah and then he took that and he did paypal and then whatever else and you said something like you know i think i can build like a hundred billion dollar company but if i'm being modest i'll build a couple a couple at least billion dollar companies but but then but but and then you go but i don't really care about the money i just love winning i just wanna win and i was like yes so right i'm about this i like that i mean like money is cool but you i live in my studio i don't have like a mansion i don't drive lamborghini so it's like i like money because it can i can hire more people and grow my business but not so i can like increase my lifestyle or whatever so which you know most people when you say that's why i i prefer to kinda love winning because it it kinda encapsulates it a little bit more because if if you just like you know talk about money than people just think you just wanna buy expensive stuff do your employees we we we went to his office today we went to studio and he's like took us some tour cool this is where we blow it up this this guy's trapped blew me off yeah you your canada flight delays is blue yeah kidding today but we we walked through like yeah is this boardroom this my office and so we go in and it's basically like imagine like kinda like a a a gaming chair computer that's standard next to it i guess like two other objects in the room just stick it a guess that he had yeah an analogy and water bottle and does mattress on the floor a bench press next to the desk and then the walls were just like steve jobs quote an elon quote steve jobs quote there's like a timeline like at this age steve jobs was here at this age a shit you're anybody that shit they ahead of it also some of those zealand quotes aren't of var real love to just put fake elon quotes so if people read it to see if they're like oh that's inspiring or just completely my well they're not that in type of one was just the one right in front of your desk goes work super hard elon musk that's for the real one but i my assistant like trying to find the dumbest thing elon ever publicly said so i can put mixed with all the real quotes just to see if people believe them or not were you good at school we no horrible really not awful yeah okay yeah that was like i mean i would act like it was studying but you know i film videos i actually my entire high school career never brought my book back home or anything i would just like throw it under like the bleach features and then in the morning i'd just grab it your first video is what you were like twelve right yeah oh actually i started making around eleven yeah wow holy shit and yeah and it's crazy because i see eleven now they're like this tall in squeak and i'm like how was that making videos this is kid looks is your first video still left no because i got embarrassed because people had played in class so i deleted my channel and then i made a new one when i was thirteen a little but the thirteen old videos are still yeah thirteen years wow okay one that's dope that's like a message to myself in five years u colin a shame you know what have signed the greatest thing ever did my life is when i was same for history test like back in long time ago when i had like eight thousand subscribers i just like screw this i just closed my book i threw it on the floor and i just recorded a video i schedule uploaded a video for six months and i go hi me in six months i think i'll have a hundred thousand subscribers whatever or no a ten thousand subscribers i was like and then i hit style recording that hit record hi me in a year and i schedule up because you can upload the use of a future video year was like you better have a hundred thousand and i was hi jaime me in five years bro if you don't have a million subscribers you're fucking idiot and i just wanna talk to me five years from out i was just like talking about the channel but i filmed it when i had eight thousand subscribers a long time ago and then i did hire me in ten years blah blah so ten years hasn't it come out yeah but behind me in five years came out my prediction was i'd have a million subscribers so it goes live on the channel like two years ago and i had like forty million subscribers but in the video that goes live it's like here's the date here's the time i'm like a fucking stupid teenage kid and i'm like i hope you have at least a million subscribers and maybe you're doing this as a job i don't know i make like ten bucks a month right now like i hope you can make it a job in the next five years and i went public and i completely forgot to even did that and i just i was like oh shit i opened up youtube i saw and everyone thought it was i thought it was one of the coolest things ever did wow and you're like a little kid in yeah and so wow and like three more years behind me and ten years goes up and i'm like i remember what's in it it i'm just like i hope by now you should be out of college yeah you're definitely out of college i think that's how i started it and you should be doing youtube full time like there's just no world you're not after ten years like you're probably making a little bit of money i just hope you are like i hope you didn't and how much were you at the time like i was that's eight k subs like making ten bucks a month and so i my prediction in ten years is like i hope you're doing this as a job and so when that goes up i think that's gonna be crazy and when when we were talking today you like you talk with a lot of certainty about like where you're going what you're doing there's like like if everybody's got this knob that's like doubt your knobs set to zero on doubt that's my advice my i know is that accurate yeah what the thing is we i don't know we probably spend like twenty thirty times longer you're thinking of ideas than other people we probably film like ten times more than other people we probably spend a hundred times for video more than other people so it's like we put in the effort but i don't how to say where it's not arrogant i just believe in what we're doing you know what i mean back then like how much do you think you believe when you you recorded that video that that was actually gonna oh no i mean those was just different times i was in the middle of bump fuck nowhere north carolina so it's like everyone you know constantly wanted to remind me you're not gonna be a youtuber or girl be realistic i think it's amazing that you never left north yeah you're still a bump north about yeah i'm trying to make it not bump function anymore but it's a work in progress do you still rep it really hard i mean i just i got a i mean some of these people over here we're there i just got a lot of people and it's too much move what was what was your metric instead of prescribe and like views when you're were younger because with with with business it's like revenue or employees you you guys are both business but you're also like a more creative thing so what was yours yeah when i was coming up it was probably did can you do a set on late night can you do like a conan said yeah could you could you be on i'll be i'll be a cast member of and snl like those were the metrics kind of those like legacy media comedy institutions that i'll be in a movie i wanna be in a sitcom i wanna be in a tv show and what it feel like when you started actually like you know the daily show and then selling yeah that felt like a real like kinda check mark like wow you you've turned the corner like me yeah that like right before that happened you are living in a basement i just living in an attic bro don't yeah yeah addicts are actually above sea level but basement are below sometimes you know so yeah was living like a kind of in a not a great situation though how i'm amazed at your confidence bro the level of the level of confidence like the in the video sure i just as a sheer amount of confidence you have because i i i still think maybe a downside of comedy you have to have like a very high level well comedian are you self application and self awareness to be like you know what i mean well you told me something because i was like trying to be funny right you sent me these like i imessage things that are like just gold you send me these voice notes and one of thing things you would say he was trying to write he was like trying to do kinda like a comedy model yeah youtube video up there seventeen thousand years no big deal yeah so but you gave me a little hit you go the ego on this man bro you starting okay i'm at seventeen okay but he says something you go comedy is low low status game you start low status you told me you is that a trade secret or yeah you know it's like there's high status and low status generally if you're low status they're gonna empathize with you you know what i mean so so i was an example you get on stay you being like i i got seventeen thousand views in front of a guy who gets like fifty million views but that was but we're gonna was more with you than we are with mister beast that's scenario because you're like oh man you know and if you're if you're like funny about it and to be confident about that well if if you kind of own it people are like oh like i even just now we did like an awkward ice breakers of the group yeah if and i was thinking about this because you know i my prompt was say your name and say one thing and nobody in the in the room knows about you yeah which was basically like you can't be like i'm mis i'm make much youtube videos i'm you know you it's like can't use your claim to fame you gotta use something else right and everybody was saying something interesting and then i think sully was the first one who was just like i played one game of little league baseball in my life because i shipped my pants and they wouldn't let me come was really great yeah and i left by the hundred gonna listen to that one but he did a low status one where everybody else was saying a fun fact like a cool fact about that totally he went low and somebody else is like you know i remarried my ex wife which makes me either the biggest city in the world or i guess the biggest city in the world he's like hey group share something no one on the planet nose no one and then at five minutes later alright podcast here's what they said yeah yeah i mean shitting your shitting your pants at little league pretty yeah yeah pretty low status and then yeah being like alright i doubled back and married my ex life again like yeah yeah like no one knows this jimmy were you confident as a as a kid in the career yeah just as a kid no i had fucking got off the acne when i was younger i still haven't ton acne scars so what didn't even worse what are you not confident about so you're confident in your work in your ability to hit certain goals whether target actually at least me honestly i'm still trying to get confidence speaking in front of large groups of people which made me wanna ask you a question because how about stand up yeah how so let's see if i dedicate my life to trying to be a stand up comment how long do you think it take for me to get good at it i mean i what's the typical curve if everybody says it takes you ten years to get good but i just think it all depends on like your natural capacity and inclination for it mh like there's some people have i've seen when they're open mic are amazing you know they just have great stage presence they have great stories they're they're amazing on stage so those people like that comics that i met where i'm like the first time i saw them they were using sure gerard car michael was like that he was incredible he was just incredible he was so comfortable we would do open mics and he would just everybody was doing was turning left and he was just turning right like he just his his vulnerability his stage presence people would do their set he would do things where like it'd be like a conan showcase and everyone would do their polished material like hey what's up i'm listening and you know i the dating hard he would just get up and he was just off the dome like kind of do a brand new at that night and how you could tell you could tell you're like oh this is kind of crazy so how long do you think it would take him to get good i don't i mean it's that's like the question you just asked is like how long would it take me to because as good as ariana on grande singing you're like how would i even they're like there it's not a it's not a hack like dude or if you ask if you ask like a mma fighter like how long would it take me to get as good as you like it's a oh thank you it's a see that's the you'd you put them in low status you alfred the two waters to me now i feel weird now i gotta put that no i all nah dude low status the whole lifetime be you guys know no you guys that water now part to go that's now march yeah k yeah i have i have to have to give mister beast his water you know what to mean jimmy what you what are you like you legacy media hack and i just gotta gotta pour the water for evan there damn is just fuck out of here is your company ran like a normal company at all or and what would your employees say about working with you i mean take on comes back damn i don't know yeah trust a free question that's a great question i don't know yeah yeah have you had like how'd did you learn how to run a company do ever had you did you hire or someone that's what's hard just like yeah yeah sure he wants come on a that that there's a couple search take yeah you take over so the question was like what's like work with him oh it's great i mean it's always different no really more here's thing know here's here's the thing know it's great you're hired like the house gonna answer that but ask better let me ask you a better question the better question is what's the this fucking employers what's the like extreme either extreme good part or extreme bad part about work with them overall extreme actually i i will say that right now referral so extreme part is is the experiences like i've done experiences that i've never could have imagined in my entire life like the traveling the doing the coolest stunt that we've ever done the the worst part is is i guess not knowing like what's next in terms of routine and he knows this best too like we all kinda go through it if if you work at mister beast so but that comes with it know what i mean and and that's something that you kinda have to accept but yeah i think that's my answer alright well and the reason i was asking was because you buy your favorite boss i'm a great person so far a hundred percent something well i i was asking because my my employees sometimes would complain that i'd be like too aggressive changing things too much but you see more aggressive than i am yeah and for a certain type of person they like that but for you to achieve your goals you're gonna have to have a lot of people and then every once in all process and every everyone's in all infrastructure and every everyone's planning for your perfection well of course yeah i you know it just i just like to make the greatest youtube videos possible and that's that's literally all i want so yeah i mean if it's not the greatest video i just wanna upload it and so after you scrap a few videos we kinda ever you know just kinda starts to figure it out does it scare you that you can't stop do you ever feel like damn i'm like i'm i'm just throwing all these coals on the yeah on the em of the the algorithm i like to use analogy like a treadmill we're on like twelve yeah buzzfeed feet and i've been going at a couple years no it doesn't scare me but so i like i was telling him the way i like to work is like i like to go basically wake up ob obsessed over something go to bed wake up ob obsessed go to bed like every second of the day until i just have a mental breakdown burnout out and then i like take a day off or maybe a day and a half off and i like to go right back to it so i don't like work certain days i just go as hard as i can every ounce my entire body until i just crash and somehow that's sustainable what what time do you sleep right now usually around three am wow yeah and then what and then and then you get up at like whenever whenever in rohan or one of them knock on to wake you up and just like but yeah people will out bed they're like you need to go watch this video so we can submit it or i need help with the thumbnail or you gotta go film it's like i don't know and i'm kinda i they tell me what to do i don't think shocked at like the numbers so like you're the the i i i don't i'll let you reveal any numbers but you've some big numbers for revenue for your other businesses yeah and you have to have infrastructure for that so that's why i was wondering i was like because you you are like this oh gotcha yeah so on the stereotype you're like this crazy creative person who's disorganized and that's perfect yeah but to sell that much of candy and or of burgers like you gotta be yeah so those are all separate so for our snack brand we hired jim who helped build rx spa and we built the team around him so that's a whole independent company that doesn't even work out of studio and same thing with peace for so that's the beauty i like to just find people who are just the best i got well their job and then just empower them and give them money and so how many people work at the studio in the studio like sixty because we don't have enough space to fit everyone so that's why we're trying to build more of building things just take forever do you do people like working for you you think this the reason i'm imagine is like these like creative types i like curious because the goal is to make one of us like a big deal everyone is working for that whereas a lot of other companies it's like no it's like it's not necessarily that either there's also certain projects where i'd be like i'd love to learn from you so there's been shows and movies that i've done like the morning show like i've never done a sexy one hour drama i wanna learn from reese witherspoon i wanna learn from jennifer anderson i wanna learn from the show creators like how do you do how do you shoot that what's that lens what are you doing that is that a fifty is that a seventy five i it how did you do that tracking shot why did you do that track let me see the script let me see the future script there's all these things where i'm like i just wanna absorb i just wanna see how you do the whole thing you what i mean like and that's a additive like positive value for me because most people don't have that access to that you know i mean it's simple tree kinda me as idle today oh man bro you gotta set the bar yeah we had told them that you were coming today to the thing and like the look of disappointment when they saw it was i was the only ground there like daddy ain't y y yeah and i to be running on top of it and they're only one camera really does that ted headphones yeah don't do that bro do that nothing when we were at your office so you you have like a big elon steve jobs like you admire these guys that's why you like the how to take over the world podcast because you like learning from them what's a story that you heard that you're like that like stuck with you you remember you reference it like kinda changed the way you were thinking from those two in particular i think the biggest thing is like that steve became a billionaire from pixar you know not even an apple and so like the fact that he could go to this just not even hardware company more creative storytelling company and just kick ass and create films like toy story and all these other bang and just just build that company up to whatever was like then disney buy for seven billion and what meanwhile apple is just falling to the ground and about to go out of business and then they you know buying back with next and all of a sudden rebound and basically the way they it would just get rid of ninety percent of products and just focusing on like four or five i mean it just shows like the power that one individual had even though both companies had yeah i don't know what over apple had thousands of employees and pixel pixar probably had at least hundreds and despite all that you know one man can make that much of a difference like the power of having good vision and just not re is like invaluable do you think your your biggest strength is probably your curiosity but you're you're down to do anything so i think what you have to do is you have to always be learning alright that's how you can like so like with our ideas right because we like to do original ideas that no one ever done before but i i might have told jude this when we were talking on the phone thing is like if there is a hypothetical fruit in japan that if you eat it makes it you can jump thirty feet taller right if that exists in this world right now you didn't know it existed so you couldn't come up with something around that it's very hyper specific but there's like a million things like that in the world that like if you don't know about it or you're not taking the inspiration you can't really come up with something like if i were to try in the stand like that's how i would try to do something different try to take and intake a bunch of different information and see what spawns my head so i try to always be learning would the mister b's version of stand up be like i'm gonna do the longest set ever i'm gonna do the longest company set ever something would it have to be would that be the mister beast like twist on it i would have to find something different because obviously the whatever is apparently out there yep because i have a bunch of people went team who hurt stand ups like there's been done a bunch of times so we'd have to figure out something got it different which i would love to one day just because it seems fun because trick talks to me about all time but in general you gotta always just be in taking inspiration from different places whether it'd be different podcast podcasts books or different knowledge i have people that i paid that just teach me things just whatever like things that what's that think i don't know what do you mean by that like they'll just find things that they don't think i'm aware of or show me cool things and be like i don't think you know this is the thing here read about it and so that way i'm always like what's an example and how many how many of these people do you have is not no just like or three you know jimmy they they call those people those are teachers yeah okay i mean he's like he's like they'll sit me down for about an hour at a time and what's what's models is they'll focus on us subject and he's like what's going on right know i never thought hey couple hundred grand at this no but it's like different topics so gotcha gotcha yeah like the last one is like about just like crazy online like which like the these like little things were yeah they'll upload a file to reddit it and then like insights an encrypted codes takes to a website which takes you to a book and like these a little like boss puzzles face puzzles and like seeing if that inspired me i know just random for that i'm black point i'm trying to always expand my knowledge well in my head with new things so i can draw inspiration i was giving him takes props earlier where i said so much of people who kinda rev the algorithm are usually being divisive they're they're saying something that's gonna make you mad right like i have a joke where i make front of mds and dos and dms get really mad you know it's like that's like a niche physician's joke but people get upset right but while sam was so cool about what you do is i think really what you've tapped into is joy and spectacle and wonder which is which is like a counter to that and it's very rare to see that really take off on the internet so yeah what made you feel like i'm gonna do that versus do videos at pursuit that might that might ag educate people per s yeah well i do think in general it is a little bit easier just to piss people off and get attention for sure a lot harder to do good and get attention so that's why i think people don't but for me because we just had this ability to go viral it's just kinda like there's a world where i make videos and i don't help people there's one where i make videos and i do help people mh one where i do help people it's just a little bit more fun that's why i do it i don't i you know p wise i should have a better answer but that's kind of the truth our software is the worst have you heard of hubspot see most crm are a cobb together mess but hubspot is easy you to adopt and act looks gorgeous think i love our new crm our software is the best hubspot grow better what creators do you guys look up to oh i'm curious to see what you say what creators do i look up to youtubers podcast comedian podcast i was gonna say creative yeah it could be and it could be anybody anyway i think what one of the first people that really inspired me i think it was probably steven spielberg really yeah i mean he's one of the greatest storyteller ever do what was the first movie that you saw where were like oh my god was blown away for me is jurassic park as a kid i i only watched youtube grown i've seen that's it yeah i made fun of all the time was the last movie that you watch i watched the the spider man three one because my i never saw it earlier ones really yeah like you have no time for movies no it's not at time i just i don't know i i need to like i need to go back and watch our wars and harry potter and all that stuff to get brought up on culture but was just like you did and so you see squid game you just did the squid emma watched it yeah got we did it got it like i wouldn't count that it's a movie i got i watched a ton of anime but yeah movies and weirdly enough like growing up i didn't listen to music or watch movies so i was like so out of culture portal there's just part of i was an introvert there's this kind mcgregor quote where they're like you know he was on bbc or something was like oh it's a bigger appearance not just niche you things yeah they're like when are think about this team or this game he's like he's like you know the yeah that one you said they're great it was like it was like arsenal yeah he's like arsenal and they're like you don't know anything about arsenal right he's like he's like i don't watch the new he's like i don't watch out i don't follow the news i don't watch sports don't do anything he goes i have lost my mind to the game hey goes i have obsessed with my game i have lost my mind to it i don't have time to for anything else i don't wanna know about anything else like well i wanna know about this game when we were hanging out i feel like you had that vibe where you were like you said a couple things you were like i decided i was gonna be a youtuber and i was gonna make great videos and it didn't matter if i died the most famous youtuber of all time or ninety years old with a thousand subscribers i was gonna make great to youtube videos like that's fine yeah that's what i decided i was gonna do and that's all i do what was late you and i do that thing what was that first youtube video that you saw that like kinda filled you with that wonder where you're like oh well this guy actually got hacked like very long time ago this like called you youtuber and they like leaked his earnings and he had made like a hundred thousand dollars a year over the last few years but i remember being like ten and be like what the fuck they make that kind they make money doing this and i was just so mindful that they actually made money well it was more than my mom yeah it was right there i was like okay i'm doing this like i just don't care i'm being a youtuber or i'm gonna fucking die try i just don't care and that like the second i saw that was actually possible that's when i was like that's it and it's funny also talking about like obsession and stuff like this because it's funny how it changes why when you're like and maybe it's different now because social media is a little bit cooler when i was younger like no one wanted to be a youtuber like most people when i was thirteen fourteen didn't even have phones yeah like it was kinda like a little bit of an older thing and maybe it's just because where i grew up but tony comes back then people are like get alive stop fucking nerd like you're too obsessive you're weirdo and then now it's like oh bro he was so obsessive he's it's so great like it's seen there's a positive closet it's so funny like looking back on our life going from a fucking loser nerd who's too obsessed and won't go anywhere to like damn that's really inspiring and it's like damn that was very hurtful back then but that's inspiring now funny to see changes but i like to bring that up because if there are younger people or parents who have kids who are obsessive like this that's typically what happens younger kids don't understand that and it's different and so you don't watch the newest south park or the newest movie or whatever so you you don't talk about the same thing so then people are just like oh well you know fucking sucks you know what you how would you deal with because you have kids i have kids if if they go i wanna be a twitch streamer i wanna be a video gamer or you're like let's go had the same realization i was like oh so wait a minute we spend the first eighteen years of our life trying to fit in that's all i felt in school i was trying to fit in all the time would what do people do that's cool how do i do that thing right and then once i was like in the adult world it's was like oh shit now we spend a whole life trying to stand out like what was all that other shit why was i why was i so focused on fitting in if the rest of your life you're trying to stand out and i just realized like oh shit standing out has been the game the whole time mh and the way you stand out is not by trying to figure it out not just like whatever you're obsessed with just let that ride because you'll go on a path that nobody else is gonna copy and then you'll you know you'll landed in a good spot so if my kid like my daughter's is too right now right if she was into gaming or she was try to be a creator all that stuff i would be all in on it because i know even if that's not your end game following your obsession is like the thing to do in life you know that will always work out but you know if you like actually go down that path well most people do is the hedge they like this thing but then to see this path that's more proven or shiny or they don't know if it's gonna work so they only have try right and then it's like that hedge is actually what gets you it's not that this career path was that hard it's at hedging is like you know what your measuring college biology the ultimate hell ultimate that was different i just know i don't i didn't know what well what i think is actually actually you could be doing their like youtube tiktok sure i feel like you can look at his videos and be like alright i get it i get why people like this i get why this pops probably pretty tempting to be like could i go get fifty million views a hundred million views that seems nice no to do what he's done what he's done he i'm not gonna i'm not allowed to say you said you you spend x number of dollars every be video oh yeah other started off you can say yeah our average would is around one point five million dollars i mean that's well he size scale he'll look at his archive right it's like he took a plastic knife and tried to cut a plastic table and it took him forty eight hours to do that that's that was that's a dollar fifty video right that's not a one point five million that's one five a hundred thousand zero it's a different thing it's a different thing so that's like a different type of skill set and muscle so the the types of videos he's producing stand up as different if if a musician was here if a dj was here it's not all the same just because it's on youtube so yeah we all do different types of media this is a different type of media are you tempted to like you know dabble yeah we talked about this right i mean i i the only the the thing that i would be i would be re of is what if i have i have to put this thing out and i don't believe in it or i'm just doing it just to do it that's the that would be the problem but i have to put up a new video every tuesday that's the just delete the video know what do you do if you if you yeah sometimes we don't wanna upload for two months you just only upload when it's a great video yeah that's all that matters yeah so i think it's dumb when people stick to like a schedule and there like oh the video is not great but i upload every tuesday and like who cares what are you guys trying to figure out right now because i think if you watch a lot of interviews with people it's like they it's all buttoned up it's all figured out they're already successful it's all working and then the person who's watching these videos typically somebody who doesn't have it all figured out and they're just sort like oh it's different like that'd would be nice to have it all figured out but the reality nobody's got it all figured right like we were in your office the whiteboard full because you're thinking of new yeah like where we going when what's not figured out we gotta figure it out so what's on both y'all plate of like what are you still trying to figure out in your game i'll let you take it first yeah sean what you trying to figure yeah what are you trying to yeah sean i'm trying to figure out tell you i'll try to figure out if i wanna go all in on content creating wow like i basically built businesses i have the most fun doing this but i don't know if i had the most fun just because it's a hobby like i'll i you know i only get the good i don't pull put all the work in love it than going in i mean it's not gonna be less do you love it i love doing it the way we're doing it now yeah if i was like him obsessed every hour of every day trying to be like how are we gonna grow this channel i might not love it as much did you like doing the twitter thing for a period of time you got old yeah yeah we got it it was it was fun to chase a number can we get to a hundred thousand in like a few months yeah this is fun to chase a number but that didn't i got sick of it too i didn't last so that gives me word but that's the thing i'm trying to figure out was like should i go all in on content creating or should i stay with creating businesses which one is like what what do i wanna be when i grow that's the question i'm i'm asking myself that exact same question too because sometimes like when you're when you're create business first i me go to content i'm like oh man am i just gonna talk about doing it all the time or am might just gonna fucking do it yeah so i i know exactly what you mean yeah i feel exactly the same way what about you right right now i'm trying to stay loose for this game tomorrow that's for that i'm not trying to get tight man i'm thirty six wrote pushing in thirty seven like he's a young boy like he he might run us off the car i played yeah yeah he was he's like twenty yeah i i was like y me and i'm like dude my l four is hurting like my my are kinda tight from this flight we got his studio and he was like he's got a hoop there yeah he's like oh we got we got six play game yeah he's wearing his like little yee slides i was like well i need fifteen minutes of stretching and then like you know i do like proper medical attention if trying to much do you guys what i've ball yeah if there's an indoor core we would do it yeah i plates i plates to anyone twenty one with jimmy right now yeah okay that'd be a fun that would be it so that will be one video three that would be a fun video you wanna make cabin do it case twenty one court somewhere around here we'll play twenty one let me play twenty we'll place twenty one or horse yeah we'll wrap up with this quote with with your with your sir okay oh what was the question what's not figured out what are trying to figure out and know with everything so i'm just gonna save a funny joke to change the top back sure basketball how to not train my legs tomorrow there you go there we go