Meet the 14yo entrepreneur who's already launched 2 businesses

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alright this episode is special because it's for the kids you see i have a fred named val val been on the podcast val has built a bunch of really big businesses and because i'm close to val i became friends with his son his son's name is isaac and he's one of the most impressive people i know not just kids so isaac is thirteen years old and over the past couple years he's built businesses and web apps and things like that that have made one in two thousand dollars a day and i thought that he was just amazing even though he's you know a kid his insights are pretty ridiculous and his maturity is ridiculous and i felt inspired whenever i've been able to hang out with him and so we thought we do kind of a fun episode where we had him on the podcast sean and i did and we asked some all types of questions about his business about how he thinks and i think it'll be fun in like ten years to look back on this and be like what was isaac when he was like when he was younger compared to a who's was older and probably a lot more successful so give us episode to listen i dig it man i like these i like hearing from young guys like who are in the thick of it and let me know i'm out on twitter at the sam if you like these kinda like children es episodes it's able to do more of them and we'll find some young guys doing some really six up so give it a listen and let me know i feel like i could rude where to know i could be what i want to put at all in it like a days off on a goal less travel never look so isaac i wanted to have you on because i'm friends with your father and he's been telling me for about two or three years some of the stuff that you're working on and you started working on this i think when you were twelve a bunch of different apps and i couldn't believe what you were doing and i told sean about it but sean doesn't entirely know wait wait isaac how old are you fourteen alright i think you're the youngest guest ever to come on the podcast so congratulations thank you're fourteen years old and do you are you like i'm fourteen years i'm an entrepreneur i'm a businessman i'm a ninth grader what do you call yourself i guess that you could call me like an entrepreneur but really it's like a ninth grader yeah i like that entrepreneur and comma ninth grader yeah i'd do that well talk talk about first about cookie duck and then we gotta talk about this new one but i you need a and i want you to brag i i know you're probably not comfortable with brag but it's okay to brag here i want you to brag to sean about cookie duck okay so cookie duck it started when i was around like ten where we had computer time at like school we had free time on computers and the games were always all they're always blocked on the computers right what i wanted to do was i wanted to create it like a website that allowed me to play games at school in our free time so i would just start like building little parts of code like putting little games on this website and after a while right just like me and my friends are playing it and then when covid came around what happened was everyone got their chromebooks and then it just started spreading like wildfire so by the seventh scared already we had like over four thousand people playing on it in like thirty minutes and your father told me that you just told a few friends and you could he would use or one you guys would use google analytics or something and you're like alright at this school in long island like ninety percent of the thousand person school is using it oh shoot we just saw that another school just find out about it because now like thirty miles away there's a whole another thousand is that right yeah so it started out like a couple people at school other than before you it like the whole school was already on it because it's like rare to find a website that's unblock on the chromebooks and so you got a bunch of games on there you got like temple runs subway servers so you have real games that people know about so do you rebuild the games or these are their games that you just embedded you just do the the cookie duck the ability to get to to make it so that it's not gonna be blocked how do you actually do so most of the games are just embedded so like it's unblock on on their end okay so you just kinda eye frame it or something in there yeah that you you figured out how to make it cut not get blocked how hard was it's not get blocked so once it get once it gets blocked what you really need to do is you have to create like new domains for each to get around like the blocking system and so is this a business does it make money what what what's going on with cookie so what happened was is that whenever you make enough length you can't monetize all of them because each link isn't big enough to be monetize they guess so in the beginning when the main cookie dot dot com was popular it it was making around a thousand five hundred a today at its peak so but eventually you know that link up blocked and you can't really monetize all their ones it's also because on the chromebooks there they have like a lot of anti block anti trackers so it's really hard to monetize what how is it making money just to google ads as yeah how much how long did this last and how how much in total did it make i mean the peak lasted around a day but i don't really have like a total number but it it dropped off pretty quickly because it got blocked so you and you did this when you were how old one else twelve alright so you're twelve years old and you might have made would it be safe to say you made at least more than ten grand doing this little hobby project right that money hit your bank account what do you think what do you use it do you go spend it do you throw a party do you invest in the sp five hundred stocks and bonds what are you doing into this i didn't really use it i mean i did it like open a little stock investing account but not yeah i didn't use it really so it's just sitting in a bank account yeah oh my gosh and when you're doing this is your father teaching you how i mean i don't know not a code so you're smarter than me a lot and probably many other aspects but definitely and when it comes to this who was teaching you how to do this i mean for this web i did go to a coding school but for this website i basically made it all by myself and you just use like a youtube or something yeah google you youtube that's amazing alright and so sean he so he did this cookie thing his dad was like bragging to me he was like dude check out my son like what he's doing and i'm like i didn't believe how great it was doing and then about three months ago his father sends me this other website it's called price satellite dot com yep and with crazy isaac is you're fourteen now you go to the price satellite dot dot com i understand why you did this gaming website makes total sense sean it sounds like you're typing read what price satellite dot com is safe big on luxury goods while traveling so you have kristen dior and louis vuitton chanel there's all these brands so the the the gist of the website i believe is like it tells you if you wanna get a d purse or whatever they make in a different country it tells you the difference in conversion rates and so it's like if you are in france it's thirty percent cheaper to buy the same product in france versus america isaac why are you helping people save big while traveling the the reason i basically did it is basically whenever like we travel we always notice how much cheaper it is so i i saw it as like a blank space and i think it would be good for seo because you have every product name right and you're and you could rank on each one so it's like a good opportunity for this now hold on how do you know what's a good seo opportunity what eighth grade class taught you that how do you know that i just i just looked and does not really like a competitor with this already it's pretty much a blank area no one really compiled it so where are you getting the data for like the prices per country is it is it all from their local site and then you just basically compile and transcribe and basically do the foreign exchange take into account the that yeah vat savings again you make it all equal basically yeah so i i got the data off like the official website and then i on like put together all the vat data along with it wow it's amazing are people using this is this like out there yet no right now it's pretty small but hopefully we're expanding we i love how you use we i think that's exactly what i did when it when it was always just me it was always a week what how how many people coming to the the side of day right now it's around thirty and fifty a day but it's been expanding pretty quickly it's pretty new and that's from search yeah okay you have back to it now or is it just because of the there's not there's no one else ranking i don't really have a backlinks just yet i mean i'm working on it trying to get like the name out there but i really have backlinks so isaac where does a guy like you you're fourteen years old and you're kind of like an internet hacker or you're basically building cool stuff that little projects that are fun for you where do you meet other people that are doing what you're doing is there like is it discord groups are there is it read forums where do you find other people that are similar to because i'm guessing in your school there's probably not too many people that are as far along as you are in terms of being an an entrepreneur i mean quite honestly i don't really like i don't really network with other people that do this type of stuff but i learned from my i guess mostly youtube tutorials on like which way to go for like different sub topics like seo and all that like coding i went shawn to isaac bar and it was technically gift you bunny dude it was the fanciest party it was the nicest party i've ever been to and it was tech themed and so each table had like a apple logo or i think there was like a sony table like there was like it was all named that tech companies so clearly he's like passionate about this stuff do your friends think you're weird like or or do they even know what you're doing i mean they know about the website they just nobody what exist but right they're not buying yeah moving vuitton bags so to you and who do you look up to who who like if you're a teenager like yourself you're trying to be a great entrepreneur or you're you're building cool things who do you look up to who do you think is doing awesome stuff in the world i mean i really got like my inspiration for doing like trying to build some stuff from my dad like that's really where it came and what did he what does he teacher what does he tell you like what what kind of guidance does he give you well he basically just encourages for me to like not think about what i wanna do now but think about like the future and i have i have a photo of isaac when man you must have been four years old in this picture i'll ask your father and you if we if we could put this in the video but your looks like you're four years old and you are putting together a pc like you literally have a screwdriver and you're assembling a pc you know what don't talk about yeah yeah i was around that was for my eighth birthday because my dad wouldn't let me just buy a computer wanted me like actually build my own computer so i was watching like youtube tutorials before i asked him if i could build my computer i was watching youtube youtube tutorials on how to build a computer like what parts to pick out and for my birthday he let me do it this is amazing isn't it hunt like it it's it's fun to hear hear and talk about this stuff isaac you've inspired me today man you you're doing very cool stuff and you are so far ahead of the game you know i was still picking boo when i was fourteen years old so i can't believe the type of stuff that you're doing and i'm hope that there's people out there who are listening to either their kids or maybe some young people that are listening to this that will kinda of use this as a bit of a green light to build more stuff we should make like a group you you know isaac the only thing i would i would recommend for you is you said you don't really have like kind of a a friends group or peer group of other people who are doing this i think you should do that man i think you should find the other kind of fourteen to seventeen year olds that are doing really interesting stuff on the internet and just be in a discord in a group chat together because you will all get smarter faster and you'll all kinda learn from each other's projects versus just being in your own silo on your on your own that's my only advice for you not that you asked but i think that that would be good for you maybe we can make it be the m m junior discord and anybody who listens this can go can go join it isaac do you have a goal like is there like or you just having them fun now or is it like by the time i'm eighteen i wanna be doing this by the time i'm forty i wanna be doing this like do you think of it that way or is it just i wanna learn to code and this is cool way to learn my goal right now is just to like progress my what i on my price satellite to like get it in like at least a million views some once like that's really my goal and i will gonna progress from there you the way sam you you know that meme that's going viral right now with the olympics with the shooter the the turkish shooter that's isaac right now yeah isaac my goal is to do the thing i'm doing better that's my goal that's how far i'm gonna take this but take this as far as i can what do you mean if price satellite it's a million views a month will that make will that be making money what what's a plan not only ads but you have affiliates for places that sell these bags like secondhand hand or they sell like the real real which sell like the new bags it's just like a reseller butt platform and i can be an affiliate to those companies along with that isn't there a thing where people pay other people to buy it in that country and then travel or ship it to them yeah a company called like mule or donkey or something like that that was basically like oh it's cheaper in denmark so then they find somebody who's already in denmark to buy it on your behalf and then they're either traveling to the united states where they ship it to to you and then you you get the the discount without having to go there yeah i've seen one of those websites but i don't i don't really know too much about them i'll have to look into it and by the way why aren't you playing with like ai and crypto and like stuff that's like kind of the cutting edge i am still playing with ai so what are you doing with ai ai a lot of price satellite is built on ai so first of all like in like a lot of code base like the web scraper the back end the front end the styles all a lot of that was built off ai the categorization of products dull ai and the product descriptions i can't do ten thousand product descriptions by myself so i really used ai for all almost all of those you know i i wanted you to come on isaac because you're impressive but mostly because you make me feel good i like talking to you because you make me realize that life's a lot simpler than it needs then we often when we grow kinda make it make it out to be make it more complicated and you you you make me happy just hearing like well i'm just gonna get a little bit better and and and it's it's a very wonderful fresh mindset i appreciate you isaac one more thing before you go we are the ideas podcast we're the the the podcast where people brainstorm business ideas or ideas for products that don't exist that think think should i am curious do you have any other ideas maybe that you don't have time to build right now or you think would be cool anything it doesn't have to be even fully fully baked out in your head it could be kind of a half of an idea there anything that you've seen that yeah that comes to mind so with along with ai i feel like ai right now everyone's trying to build like their own different app but i think that building like ai into what we already have like the messaging app the phone app that's really what's gonna make ai a lot more convenient for people so instead of searching for like people places or things do like a search bar basically we just text like an ai like can you find me this can you find me someone who does this like a job for me and then it will like basically call a bunch of places like maybe reservations it'll find you like places in the area you text an ai and it'll book for you it'll find new times and that's what's gonna make ai lot of convenience for people i love it so like a a a what's that bought or a or an eye imessage yeah you could just text out yeah your your ai on demand yeah i'm just text to ai you're the man you're the man what it just don't change keep going alright guys are weird no got kept saying i make him happy we we appreciate you man thanks for doing this and keep going you're you're the man i feel like got rude to work i know i could be what i want to from at all in it like the days all on a road less travel never looking back

Episode Notes

Episode 638: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) talk to 14-year-old founder Isaac Katayev ( https://x.com/isaackatayev ) about the startup he launched out of his 7th grade computer class. 

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Show Notes: 

(0:00) Cookieduck 

(4:18) Making $1,500 a day at age 12

(6:19) Price Satellite 

(11:08) Being peerless


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Links:

• Cookieduck Games - http://cookieduck.com 

• Price Satellite - http://pricesatellite.com/ 


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Check Out Shaan's Stuff:

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Check Out Sam's Stuff:

• Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/

• Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/

• Copy That - https://copythat.com

• Hampton Wealth Survey - https://joinhampton.com/wealth

• Sam’s List - http://samslist.co/


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