Drunk Business Ideas That Could Make You Millions

i got my drunk ideas we do some drunk ideas yeah let's do it alright so again to to frame this these are ideas that i had that i don't think are good but i still wanna say them so i call it drunk ideas even though i didn't have them while i was drunk i was stone cold sober but that's my cover story alright so drunk idea number one it's called and you got every yeah you gotta tell me i think i did this before and by the way one gem came out of it which was my lucky water brand that i i do intend to create so you know some gems do come out of out of this so ben you're a participant in this one i need you both to give me your your idea your reaction what's much of this scale be on the reaction is it like you know you know on a scale of sober to piss drunk or like at a scale of like you know horrible to good idea how do you wanna write these let's just do one ten one ten alright first idea is called very long distance girlfriend okay so i had this idea because i realized like i'm sitting there and me and my wife we like to watch all these dating shows right so we watch all of his blind we watch the bachelor and you watch these shows and this sort of like it's like the honeymoon period and i like i would say most people's homes are like ours it's like the scene is this on screen you see like two usually beautiful people living some kind of fairy tale date and then like one person's kind of like you know there's some drama one person's being dramatic or one person's unsure and the other person's really good or whatever and then you and then if you if you zoomed out off the tv you'd see a couch with usually a couple sitting like six feet apart from each other because they're so sick of each other you know this like you know in their sweats not dressed up with their you know double chin eating their popcorn and cheetos and be like pointing to at the screen to be like oh she's not even that hot or like you know he's you know he's such a jerk and it's like judging these relationships right but like there's something to this of why we like it right we like seeing these other relationships but i also think like when we do that we we do that with c like oh we shouldn't have tapped out yeah dude he's such a pussy it's like dude he's still weak he looks scared yeah dude he's so scared that's why i like it because he's scared it's like yeah it's not confident oh my god there's a spider in my room you know like so so say yeah there's definitely like a judge there's a fun in judging it but i would also say there's a fun in the sort of fairy tale like i think everybody when you're watching these shows you sort of put yourself in the shoes of either the person pursuing or the person and being pursued you know you're you're the dams or you're the prince whatever it is so the the idea behind very long distance girlfriend is as follows it's a service or app i think it's just a service i think it's just a a text message this just a phone number you put in your address but and we give you the perfect boyfriend or girlfriend you're never gonna meet with this person it's not even the intention it's just somebody who's gonna treat you perfectly because they're paid to do it and so so it's like prostitution it's like what's a prostitute a prostitute to somebody who's paid to love to love you right to make love to you but that's a not not i don't wanna cross that line that's a lot of work so this is like you know how tinder made dating easier because you don't have to like go date everybody you to sort swipe left right easily on your phone it kinda gave you this like flirting hit but you didn't have to go out and put it a lot of effort so here's what you would get if you if you sign up for very long very long distance girlfriend this there's gonna be a person that pretends to be your girlfriend they're gonna text you they're gonna ask how you're doing they're gonna be emotionally there for you they're gonna text you baby photos of themselves they're gonna i can you say that they want you you're gonna be like oh my god i'm i'm this person wants me they're never gonna na you they're never gonna get mad at you they're never gonna get jealous they're never gonna do any of the things that real human beings do and that are the downsides of relationships only the upside none of the downside so for girls you're gonna get prince charming on the other side he's gonna be complimentary he's gonna be thoughtful he's gonna be there for you and for for guys you're gonna get sort of what you want as the perfect girlfriend and we're just gonna hire call centers very of of just dudes and they're gonna behave as your very long distance boyfriend or girlfriend alright give me your give me your ratings i'm gonna start with sam to i give a ten i i think that i i think that's great to be honest i think that surely that like if we went to adult friend finder dot com or something like that is that what they do what is adult friend finder what is that like like webcam or you're asking the wrong guy i don't follow wrong question i have no idea yeah i mean this is brilliant how many friends do you have who you've only met via texting and you've like i've i've got like a bunch of friends who i've only ever texted yeah exactly i've now most of my life is people i only text with maybe i knew them before there's a bunch of people that are like i don't know just through twitter or through you know the podcast or through friends or friends we get into a group chat together i know their personality they're cool like that's my actual friend even though i never met them so why or even heard their voice or talk to them like through voice and in fact i have no desire to really meet them like i don't wanna go out of my way to go like say hang out with them i'm getting all the benefits that i want out of just the text yeah so anyway i have a lot of friends like that and i consider there'd be really close friends i i i i i can't tell you how tall they are or what their voice sounds like but i love them and so because of that i'm in what do you think ben i give it a one it sounds dia it sounds one zero or oh just a one zero it was a big slow role for a ten yeah there there's this genre of idea of shawn business idea that essentially is i went and watched an episode of black mirror and said actually that's a good idea and this is one of those oh that's a great idea that are good ideas yeah that's it that's like where do you think they're getting their ideas they go to the great idea pile and then they take a great idea and they say okay let's put this to a logical extreme where it actually turns bad like if you met remember that remember that tv show in disney called smart home where the the the it's like a smart home it's like a alexa yeah yeah a great idea and yeah and the smart home ended up being the mom and the wife so it kinda is like what we're describing now so i think the like yeah i have watched her i think her is something like this it's like a voice assistant that he kinda falls in love with i haven't seen that but again it's not even a fall in love it's just dude it's fun to get certain grab the text messages right it's fun to get a a a funny text from a friend it's fun to get something interesting text to you that's kinda what also does the hustle just sends me some interesting stuff every morning the no grow tries do that here's some interesting crypto stuff right we're your friend but i'm not really your friend i'm just sending you some cool stuff you like getting that message but that's for the work part of our life what about the personal side ben are you telling me you would i mean i know what you're gonna say you're gonna say no but let me just put it out there anyways you're telling but you would not wanna be getting text from a woman who's so into you and it's not cheating you're never gonna do anything it's not even a real person you're never gonna see him nothing like that especially if you're single like i'm not talking about like we're all i think we're all married ben right so so it's not for us this is for twenty five year old me not thirty i don't know how thirty four year old me yeah i obviously we're not the target demographic all of us because we're all married yeah but having said that like even if it was just like a as a as a a friend type of thing i like i already have actual friends that i don't text back the last thing i need is another thing that's literally just a person to not text back i don't need another one of those in my life but no afraid vape bad but no as a as a business idea of course it's a good idea of course like it has money making potential as a thing that is good for humans you know that's that's why i gave it one oh i'm not i'm not in the the garage i just felt like i had to be the conscience here i had that one person had to be like no you know this is okay okay it's good i you know i'm the the devil you're the angel on the shoulders we have to either yin and yang that's how it works that's good yeah you know if you want good things you should you know go eat your vegetables work out you know wake up and pray do all the things right like that's cool don't invest in russia companies yeah don't invest russian companies don't have the very long distance girlfriend service for nineteen ninety nine a month don't you know don't use tiktok don't do any of the things that you're doing probably alright next idea it sounds related but it's it's the huge beds company you kinda alluded to this earlier i've been thinking about the of life that i care about we all we all know what i do private chef personal trainer at my house i live like a king i the one thing i don't live like a king with is my bed is only king sized but a true king would not have it at a king size bed true kings have what's called a emperor sized ben have you ever heard of these no so athletes have these i saw these because there's a woman who has this business it's already a great business there's a woman who makes beds for nba athletes and so shaq has a twenty four foot bed i believe of like twenty four foot like in diameter and you know a whole bunch of players do this they have twelve foot diameter beds eighteen foot things like that the room it's like it looks ridiculous but the whole family can sleep on there and still have their space like you know just to get to your spot on the bed you kinda have to crawl there like a small child just to your pillow like because either was such a long runway and so i've always saw these and i thought these look super comfortable and i've decided i want a very huge bed and i realized i wouldn't know where to go buy it so my idea is a d brand called huge beds name tb we need to we need a better name no no keep it it's like it's like the it's like the company big ass fans yeah it should be big ass beds okay that's the ass beds big ass beds for bad out people marketing will slogan included with my drunk ideas alright so so big ass beds and basically it's just a d brand that sells you this right like these are very expensive so these these run for like twenty twenty thousand dollars on average i think is like the cost of these like humongous oversized beds and that's why athletes buy them because they're a the nba players are already very tall plus they got a lot of money so it's like the sweet spot for them and this woman who they buy it from this is one woman and she just sells it all through her instagram basically it's like some player posts a picture is bed tags the woman people go who look at hers she has like an instagram full of huge beds people go buy from her so i think that's just like a niche that somebody could go own big ass beds and i think you know okay athletes is one but we need to find a new niche we may need to go into a new sport or may need maybe it's business nerds who are trying to optimize their sleep and it's like you know you made some jumbo about this having a big bed it's not gonna make you sleep better unless you're like eight feet tall have you tried it well maybe you're been it's like a free range chicken maybe when you're not confined by this you know like maybe you have anxiety all night because you might fall off the right maybe just being able to stretch out is nice right maybe maybe not being so cramped as nice i don't know it seems like there's some benefits there definitely maybe is but definitely probably isn't i mean haven't you been in in a cal haven't you been in a california king size bed before i a california king size bed yeah you have a california you have a california king california for you a california king is like the same size as the king it's just longer instead of wider it's the same overall size it's just longer so it's not the same overall size but yeah i know it's the same size but it's like less wide more long are the other ones more wide less long you have a california with baby that's a huge bed if you ask me that i think that's big it's that not is is it just you and your wife in the bed or do your kids stay there sometimes my kids stay there and my dog so it's like you know we got a full house in the bed might think that likely there's another thing that should be addressed that making kids bigger yeah like don't let i would call it i would trying to i about we call it i thought we create a little kid bed company or dog bed yeah or we'll we'll call a crib or we could make like a dog bed business also a good idea i think maybe those are the solutions to your problem instead of making a twenty by twenty a four hundred square foot bed ben what do you got here it seems like you might be on my side sam is so wrong on this but i i have a king size bed it is a good size i don't want good good enough for you no i don't wanna be anywhere near my wife when i sleep i want to have to shout for here to hear me like there's always like just some little toe poking me in the middle of the night and if you could just offer me i never have to worry about that a b you're right sam is it gonna actually give me better sleep probably not is it gonna be an amazing experience to just like crawl onto this massive piece of luxury that is twenty feet long yes it sounds like an amazing experience and i want it i want to feel that and spend a third of your day on this bed right you spending eight hours on this bed why not this the that just second out the second that you said like a twenty foot wide bed i just knew i wanted it my heart knows that i wanted to pictures when you see the picture you're like this looks like lavish as fuck alright so do you guys one question do you guys sleep with a pillow in between your legs of course i sleep with the maternity pillow same so i i have a body i have a body pillow and so i like basically spoon the pillow because i need my my knees to be i i can't have these straight ergonomic that's just like that's proven that's not even like us being weird that's how being scientist so the reason i used my wife's pregnancy pillow is science do you really you use her what is she i bought too so i so i bought hers i bought her one because my buddy my buddy told me this my buddy goes congrats you guys are pregnant fantastic so happy for you hey get your phone out and go to this website you're gonna buy this swedish pillow it's a two hundred dollars but trust me best pillow ever and i was like oh my god like never been so intrigued by a sales pitch took out my phone and ordered it right there i'll never forget what i i was in an uber in las vegas when this happened and i thought alright and it's just like it says like five weeks to ship i was like oh my god this must be fantastic if it's like such a shitty experience and so it arrives it's amazing my wife uses it she's like it's good and i was like oh only good he really built it up let me try it out i try it for a nap so good i ordered myself one and now she never just use she never used any of them i use both of them actually and i i it's fantastic what's it called i'll have to look it up it's it's like some swedish name that i don't really know yeah i'm a big fan of those i'll buy one i i just had like a really long pillow that i just kinda spoon but maybe i should buy one of these it is called oh here it is b b hug me dot com so the two letters b then hug me dot com b b hug me and it's designed in scandinavia and that's it's not sweet scandinavian and just look at it it just looks like it's gonna be good and then it is good it's really it's really great really great pillow alright i'm i'm gonna buy one of these wow this looks huge yeah it's not that big but it's like kinda like it's like got like beads inside or whatever so it's sort of like forms to your body it's great alright i'm on board with this i bet these guys crush it by the way yeah i can imagine the thing's really i think it's pretty expensive it's like two hundred dollars for one pillow which is great sight a lot alright so here's my next drunk idea i got two more for you hoa court okay so do you guys have an hoa where you live no i'm no you one time if i if i remember correctly sean you had an hoa just for a duplex yeah yeah i mean i mean are are other person we had an hoa with an hoa fee but we both the soon as we bought place we're like yeah we're not gonna put four hundred dollars into this every every day right like and we're both disagree degree we're not putting four hundred dollars a month into you an hoa ben yeah i and i kinda hate it so my hoa has been harassing me lately i've been getting letters so i rent i rent my current place and we live in this neighborhood and there's some karen in this neighborhood that just hates me and she's like oh i don't like that you you know leave the trash bins out a little you know an extra day i don't like that you work out on the like treat in the driveway like you no exercise no exercise equipment is loud i'm is that are you exaggerating really no no there's three complaints there's that there's that and then there's another one which is we get like water delivered like you know like the kinda like a a water dispenser so you get these jugs stop gallon jugs and so they're like kind of like they're like the guy delivers it to our door but he tucks it behind this pillars so if you're looking at our house you can't even see it you'd have to like walk up to our like walk halfway up our thing i gotta see the thing and so somebody just keeps complaining to and our landlords like dude what's going on is it look and he lives in another states so he's like what is this like could you just are you like fucking up things i'm like no i i'll don't do anything wrong okay the trash i do leave out a little bit but you know besides that it's not a big deal like when you're working on the street is it like just you and your trainer and what do you do just throwing in a medicine ball or something no we're doing lunges it's like dude i i can lunch in the street there's nothing or like we have a battle rope that will put on a you know art but this that's my driveway dude i do what i want driveway and so in my neighborhood like mostly really old people that like don't really do it do much so you know i get it but i'm not disruptive anyway so so this h hoa thing and so i first was like i was like okay i have two choices i can either just quietly resolve the issues just listen just move the trash cans in put the battle rope inside the garage only move it out when i want and water jugs like i guess i could pull them inside the door takes up space but you know no no harm i'm done no you cannot do those no no not no number one is not happening right right this is war and so i went to war so i was like you know what i'm gonna waste my time and energy fighting this hoa who is this hoa after all i demanded names i demanded to speak to somebody i said they can call me direct next time to have a problem i said here's my number i put it out there i started to i said i started to go take photos of other house i like to file some complaints myself oh what is this children swing at the front yard this person has violation why is this person's garbage cans outside violation why is this person riding their bicycle exercise equipment on the street violation and so i started fighting back i started saying is it because i'm the only brown guy in the neighborhood just course i was i was waiting for the race that you had to do that you had i can only wonder what's so different because again i see violations all around me now and so i'm i am base but there's no my my complaints are falling on deaf ears and i wasting a bunch of time i need h hoa court it's a judge judy like show streamed onto to netflix and or youtube where i can go present my case and it's a place for petty people to do their thing and that's that's my pitch is is actually a show it's a tv show h hoa court or petty court petty yeah maybe petty court maybe petty is is the right way to do it i think that's beautiful but isn't in this do hoa people not have what's that called where before you go to court you can hire a arbitration meet an yeah arbitration mediation yeah is there what what do you do with hoa how do you know who wins you can't win that's the problem hoa is just like you know ambiguous force such as controls even though you you you know you pay your hard earned american money to to to live in this place to buy this land to live free but the freedoms is not there and that's why we made court to bring back our freedoms and to put put these petty people back in their place do do you like do do you just like reply all to an email well no it's like they they they use these agents like coward it's like a there's like a random h hoa email address with like one person behind it it's like no who's complaint is the majority of the neighborhood complaining maybe it's a democracy maybe we need fifty one percent complaints for me to change the way do things why does one person get to change my way of living right it sounds a little crazy to me so i just feel there's no justice and then when there's no justice i can't sleep and that's the idea but i i look i wanna dig deeper on this because i actually think that it's totally not worth your time to fight this this is this is a fight this fight always not worth my time no it is definitely these fights are worth are worth this is what living is for i love doing this stuff i i love fighting with neighbors and like trying to win and like rub their face in it like a dog who pee inside i love this and so is there a way i don't believe that's considered the best practice anymore by the way for dogs for dog training i don't deal with h hoa i don't want pee coming after us is there is there a way that you can set a trap and figure out who it is i don't know how i would do that oh i know i put a unique letter under the doorstep of everybody in the neighborhood i say listen i heard about the complaint and i understand in fact i'm sorry that i did what i did you know i would just love to make it up to you what's your favorite flavor chocolate or vanilla i'll send you a treat because you were right and i was wrong and i just need you to know that you were so right with your hoa complaint so just should be your hey just text me your favorite flavor honey pot gotcha that was actually pretty brilliant and you could do one of two things so you could either say this person's a flavor this person it's a what size t shirt you are or you could just get a bunch of different google numbers and see which one even better google i say hey have you guys seen this asshole who lives over here guy keeps putting his he keeps doing lunges in the street am i right like vial violence in our neighborhood i think we should escalate this he's not listening i believe it was you who made the complaint but maybe i have that wrong if it was you i'd like to discuss steps of how we might escalate this issue to make sure that jerk goes down keep bring them in bring them close before put them put them away i i i would love for you to do this how many people live in the neighborhood do you think how many people wanna have of an hoa no it's a neighborhood it's every everybody's default in it's probably got a hundred maybe sixty houses a hundred ounces or something like that it's a lot lot of time and energy you know may have to like who shut down one of my businesses just to do this you don't think you know who's doing this i have no idea really hurts me because i know there's somebody who walk by smiling at me while i'm working out in my garage i just work out my garage with the with the door open just have some air like i no no big i'm allowed to do that in my home gym you can't change your behavior you have to get to you doing it well i've already bent but you know i've i brought the water bottles inside and i i moved the trash cans but you should buy lawn chairs and put them in your front lawn and just hang out there without a shirt consistently i think that's what the move has to be that's a gift to the neighborhood alright the last idea las idea alright the nba all game just happened and and every sport has this and baseball has the home run derby football has the pro bowl nba has the dunk contest and the all star game why does it this exist for business is that a thought this ever crossed your mind why don't we have the tech all star game why don't we have the business the business all stars i feel like there's a there's an opportunity here to bring together the who's who i'm just gonna use tech for now so bring together the who's who of tech just the all stars honor them get them to compete for our entertainment and just make a weekend out of it right why aren't we why aren't we treating this like the sport that it is so here's here's how this might work tech all star game is basically a hack and i get z and i get get larry page and sergey sergei and i i go get founders of different mega companies and they're gonna perform it's gonna be live streamed on onto youtube and they're gonna have to build something they get twenty four hours to build something so you have an all star designer you got johnny iv working with mark zuckerberg all of a sudden you got brian c working with you know whoever you know sun da or whatever you get pee pair these guys up into random combinations and they're gonna have to do a hack they're gonna have to build something and demo it and somebody wins the trophy for building something cool because you've seen that like dorm loves to hack and build little projects i remember when covid happened kevin sis the guy from instagram he built this dashboard that was measuring the viral and the sprint because he's like hey these politicians are just like making statements so we have no source of truth no dashboard that tells us how this thing's spreading and how it's not per city and that's what we need to look at and so he built this dashboard there and i just thought wonder what happen if you unleashed these types of brains the all stars in a and a little competition of their own a little hack of their own what do you think of this idea i think if you can if if it's if the if the idea is like an award thing that i think that's the worst idea you ever had i think that's a horrible idea if you if it's like a hack no one will ever do that but i think it's an interesting exercise and that and here's my question to you if you took let's say mark zuckerberg jeff bezos the google guys and the ceo and you had them do a hack done do you think any of them are actually still capable of making anything making it but but you it would be them on the roads so you could pair them with like every team is the all and all star engine so all star technology person and all star designer and then our all star ceo product visionary no that's bullshit if if you want one zero one if it's just that like for example i base can't probably build anything he might you know he's gonna go build like here a blog like a well like if it was if it was like you and me it's like you guys like you gotta go make like a business in the next like week i'm i'm very confident that just me on my own i could build something that makes money right do you think that what a the google guys sergey and larry larry yeah do you think that they're capable of actually making anything maybe like i know z can so z when when snapchat came out i remember that he recognized the threat that was snapchat so early on and created facebook poke he literally wrote code into the facebook poke like they're their competitor that they they i think they released it in nine days or like nineteen days or something ridiculous and he was one of the lead engineers actually code in the project now he doesn't normally do but i was like the story at least do you think i think he could i think very few others could i remember so mike michael birch who who built be he was a programmer right a programmer programmer he built four or five startups that were all in interesting and successful and we did a hack week and i invited michael was like michael come hang out don't just be mister investor you know far away like come hang with us living in our like we're staying in your cabin so like just come hang with us and he came and i was like you wanna you wanna build something we're all building these little like you know apps and he's like well don't exactly know javascript like the languages i know aren't really used anymore and i don't really remember a lot of it and i haven't coded in years my machine is not even set up to do it so you know i don't even know what i could build at this point and so he cooked this dinner instead and then later he got back into programming he's like yeah like now i got my machine set up i'm you know i'm using python i'm learning into new languages instead of the old stuff it but he like ramps up over time and now he loves to code he codes all time but i think when i him on the spot when he hasn't been doing it no he was it was tough for to just like go build something even though he's an inch here let me tell you something really real quick this this isn't that shocking because i didn't up exactly own a tech company but i made i i owned a company that made tens of millions of dollars on the internet when you use words like python and javascript or whatever you said i have literally no idea what those are like for real i don't know how programming works try to yes what it what is python well it's like a language but i don't know like i don't know what you use it for i don't know what it does when people talk about like ruby on rails i'm like so there's like a java on rails like how like is there like i i literally don't know what the word of these rails you speak of yeah or they'll be like well this is css and this is html and this is i'm like i don't know like is one of those like the outdoor sighting of the home and like like i do like an analogy does i i still to this day i have no idea what they mean this is like when i told you i you i go into home improvement they're like oh okay so is it a drywall wall and i'm like it's not wet like what do you mean like can you give me four or five types of walls with some photos and i tell you which one it looks most like hey can we do like a prison lineup up here that i'll point to the wall that looks most like my wall like what when people talk about the stuff i so the way that we worked at my company was i would sit with the engineer and i would just draw i'm like the website it probably should look something like this and i'll write the words that it i should say and once you click this button let me draw the second thing that you should see in i would give it i would give it to them and it would work somehow and i and i to this day i have no idea how any of those things work yeah and who who needs to i used to i used to be like i wish i knew had a code i'd be so much better when you had a code and i would love to learn how to code i'm still actually i'm like kind of at night i'm taking this like you know u me course on python or something like that and then our buddy su was like he's like yeah people say that hey he's like i used to know dakota he's like he's like dumbest thing ever who cares how to dakota he's like you could pay somebody here here's a guy in india he can code whatever you want you just tell him he'll do it he's a nice explain stupid knowing why i actually totally disagree with him i think that the the key is at least you knew how to do it so then and if you don't wanna do it anymore that's fine but as actually think that when there's been times where i've talked to my developer and in my head like well you just gotta click this button and you see this and they're like well you don't even have to click the button you know like you this technology the way it works is you can i'm like that that works that's a possibility like i don't even know i i wish i knew how to code so i knew what frameworks i could like work within because when as someone who doesn't know to code i'm like how do you how did you i don't even know that's it's possible like you know what mean it's like asking someone in eighteen hundred to like explain to them how text messages work it's like whoa what the hell a phone let love it you know what i mean and that's how i feel sometimes when we're talking about coding so i think that's true i i actually agree and disagree with what he said so i agree in the sense that i used to think i used to have the story in my head that if i if i knew that then i'd be able to be do so much more and i don't believe that that's true i think that anything i wanted to do i could do by just you know hiring one of many many programmers out there or using a no code tool it is actually not holding me back and i can get the same result whether i do it or not the part i disagree with is i think it's really awesome to be able to have an idea in your head and be able to make it happen yourself because there's a huge loss ness in trying to explain to something else explain something that's in your head that's kinda fuzzy to somebody else having them download your fuzzy picture then they output it in even fuzzy way it's like i came at telephone and it comes out very different a lot of times like when i write something or like like if somebody says alright can you help me with this email i'm like yeah but you gotta give me the keyboard and they're like like i'll i'll type it and i'm like no you don't understand like i don't just think of the email i write the email and while i'm writing it i think of what say like i i can't create content in in my head i create it while i'm doing it and i think most great things that get created are like that you're building it and while you're building it you're sort of like figuring out what you wanna build and like playing with the idea live and that's what gets separated when you're not builder yourself and so i'm i i am jealous that i don't get to do that when it comes to building apps and let me ask you one more question so let's just say that we took some of the big folks i i actually i won't use elon because he's proven it but like you take the guy who started snapchat evan evan i think yeah z the google folks bezos maybe not bezos because he's also proven it but you take them and you strip away like what they've done and they're the same age but you know they've just been like an insurance agent their whole life do you think in one scenario do you think that they could still accomplish something great and then on the other side let's just say that they decided at the same time when they were young nineteen in starting facebook let's just say that like you know instead of facebook i'm gonna focus on like a music or or this like music app like still tech but just like a slightly different version do you think that they would be even remotely as big and successful as they as they are so the second question i think is much easier to answer which is i think all of those people would be very successful by any like kind of objective measure but would they be people that we know their name we talk about them and they're you know hundred billionaire you know status no you know i do not think that that's i think luck plays a part in the magnitude of the success but not the probability of so i think all of them the probability of success for them is all of ninety plus percent they would all be good at what they do positive impact you know make millions of dollars over their career and be like considered top of their field and whatever field they go to the magnitude of success the fact that they end you know basis ends up being worth hundreds of billions of dollars that i think is much more luck of the balance on which opportunity you took versus others so yeah so that that's kind of my answer to the second what would you say i agree i think that so for example there's this guy named david carp you know david ka he's the tumblr guy right he invented tumblr and tumblr basically sold to yahoo i think for a billion was it that it was a billion it's sold for a lot of money but he's totally then they shut it down tumble totally not existent anymore and he he doesn't i don't even know what he does he just he's not relevant and i think that a guy like him who have seen talk and i've heard and i've read his writing he's pretty brilliant and i'm like man if tumblr had not sold or if you were working at something else i think you could have been way better another one is the guy who created meetup up scott i think his name is yeah he is amazing too but meetup is not that big of a get wasn't that big it wasn't that interesting i think if that guy would have worked on something else it actually would've he would've been significantly more successful and it and some of these guys it's kinda like their lance arm armstrong and they're riding the tudor france in a mountain bike or with a flat tire it's like man you that was needlessly hard if you could have been way better if if you if you just pick it everything the level ten hustle level ten skill level six opportunity right meet up to me is like a level six opportunity it was just like a really hard space to go into he did the best of anybody who went into that space we all know the name because of that reason but meetup just wasn't as big as not meeting your friends in real life and only talking to them online through facebook right like facebook was just a far larger opportunity and i don't think it was that z knew that so i don't think it's that they're so kind of like big brain that they just they filter out back lot like best idea i think you know like there's a lot of text messages i get leaked from z early on and he was he thought wire hog was gonna be the the real thing he was like you still debating i don't know if i should do facebook when facebook was like already a thing and working and he's like he's like i think you know this is this stuff that we're doing right now is gonna really help us when we do wire hog which is like a file transfer protocol that he just thought might be bigger and you know obviously at some point he recognize recognized no this is the opportunity let me do this but like it's not like upfront he just said i analyzed a hundred opportunities and i have identified the one that's gonna be this app that has like billions of users i don't believe that that's true at all i think you sort of look into the size of the opportunity and the era that you were born you know these guys if they were born before the tech wave they might have just been the best blacks in town and not had like any of the tools that let you become a hundred billionaire because there just was no leverage available to you you know a hundred years ago or whatever yeah i by the way michael chandler and justin ga they they fought re like a three months ago these are two u guys and they're both known for for kinda being like big meat heads just stay in the middle and bang and hit each other really hard and they don't there's they're just kinda crazy and justin ga at the end said something amazing he goes i love the he had just suffered this like three round war where they're banging each other in the head as hard as a can and you feel sad because you're like this guy is gonna brain damage and at the end he goes what just happened i love it he goes i feel like i was born in the wrong era i should've have been a roaming gladiator because i would have loved to fight to the death in front of all you people and i and i heard that it gave me chills like i believe you i think you're you and i are not the same you're you're crazy like you are built to be a warrior and sometimes i think about that i'm like who today like or i i think like who was like like alexander the great if we put them in like today's era like would he just be like too b and we'd back to dude you're an idiot bounce like it out of your dumb idiot or like if napoleon came into play nowadays like we just gonna like a dating app yeah like what would like what would like the gladiators of then be working on like when they just like well let's our historian and ben you study these guys what do you think if you transplant alexander greater napoleon into this era or edison would he be like what do you a dating at really that's so stupid or do you think that that's the coolest thing ever and he because i wish i could have done this i doubt edison would be into dating apps but i like i was on my alexander the great episode one of the points i made is i was just reading this book about alexander the great and it talked about a contract that he negotiated with one of his contractors one of his suppliers to move their baggage train from one area to another and i was just like oh this is like not that different like he had contracts that he had to negotiate and he had suppliers who provided his weapons and like logistics and he just contracted the mountain he had people in charge of the contracts and like had basically kind of the same organization that ceos have so i think like yeah so alexander great i think he'd be a his personality he'd probably be like a ceo edison would be like a entrepreneur kind of technical but moves out of it like a az z like yeah yeah that's interesting i i think about that all the time about like what like the the you know people who dominated from a hundreds of years ago what would they be like today and vice versa i'm like dude if if zach didn't learn how to use a computer like with that guy just been a door like in the eighteen hundreds like what could he you even have survived the plague like you know what i mean and so i think about that all the time cool guys i gotta run alright end the episode