AI-Planned Dinner with Billionaires, NVIDIA Stock Bump & Billion $ Panda Express

ai is obviously all the rage the entire menu was created by chat ep so the those basically just typed it i appreciate that i'm hosting a dinner for a bunch of tech people x number of tech people create a menu for an epic dinner party and it created a full menu that's cool it goes and then it's like cool like generate an image using dal dolly or whatever and then basically created the whole menu that and the chef had to cook whatever chat gp had created which was which is pretty clever yeah i feel like i could rule world i know i could be what i want to from at all in it like a days off on the road traveling before we go into this episode i gotta say i'm doing a workshop with our boy nick hub do you see this just stay the w word for me it it's a workshop it's not a no say that other on the web some well it might be a webinar i might be doing away it's similar to a seven hour on the web i didn't realize that much from yeah i'm doing one of the lame things one man can do with another and that's a webinar alright of what what's this webinar about basically both of us are total i don't know nerds or we're obsessed with with hiring internationally like for both of our companies i think we both had a moment where like wait i'm pretty sure i could find somebody for ten times less you know it cost ten times less and the the secret part that bunch of it don't realize everybody gets that that if you hire somebody sees they're they're cheaper what i found i don't know if you how much you do this but the way overseas mean like like across like the mississippi river in missouri we're across the yeah yeah it's oversee like the sea like overseas like review at the california you're gonna come into you know like hannibal missouri now basically i have let's see i got in one way if i e commerce business i think i have six or seven people in the philippines plus to in latin america so though those are kind of the two hot spots latin america you get the same time zone and they're good for certain types of roles like we have like data analytics of and then the philippines we have all of our customer support plus like anything that's like sales and outreach so we're we'll just be like hey we wanna go get every influencer on board i'm not even gonna talk to you just go go make that happen in every morning report how many of how many influences are on board show me the pipeline show me the hey we want this many wholesaler to start selling our stuff go make this happen and they're just like an automated sales machine this is pretty pretty amazing but anyways we're doing this web because of yeah we just wanna give us away kind like yeah you gotta caught a a web in our yeah yeah we're gonna do it on the way in our anyways we decided we'll we'll do one we'll teach anybody who it's like delegation one zero one but if you wanna do if you wanna join or whatever it's on the sixth i think a sixth of june how do people find it go to alright we're gonna put on the screen a giant link in the description it'll be the top link in the podcast description and or the youtube notes but if you don't see the either those places you can just go to my website sean p dot com and it'll there'll be a little banner if you wanna do it because for doing this thing might as well if we're doing it for free as might as well have as many people as we can sign up and if you sign up even though you can't make it live you'll just get the recording so if you ever want to then hire internationally you'll have the recording in all of our light kind of archie cheat codes of after doing this for i don't know if ten years here's what works here so doesn't it alright so we've started on one end of the spectrum can we please go to the other end of the spectrum and tell me about a dinner you had yeah i had this dinner i i thought i already talked about it and but i don't think billionaire dinner is a great way to go when we started with web yeah exactly see what happens is you hire people for low cost then you go to this billionaire dinner that's that's basically what i did so i went to a dinner at a billionaire place and i can't say exactly who but i wanna share three takeaways from this thing are they a billionaire from being early at a tech company or for starting something amazing starting their own tech companies so do they sell it or is it still yeah at the dinner there was somebody who sold their business for i i think i could say some of the people who were there so let me let me try to do that there was the guy who created fig was there so sold his company recently for twenty billion so he was there there was people that were like really internet og like they were like their first internet company was in ninety eight or something like that and so i well that's the part i actually loved i was talking to them so that's the story i wanna show people are the best they're the best i because i was like what was it like back in the early days and i'm gonna tell you one thing that you told me but before i do that a couple of interesting things now i've done a couple of these different yeah how did you get invited to this i know one of the people there so they they're what they do is they host these regularly with the same crew but then whoever is the host for that month gets to invite guests so they work they get to invite three or four guests that are not in the main group to kinda spice up the dinner but then the main group is like been going for ten years plus so it's kind of aspirational was like oh i'm gonna start one of these two it's a a once a month dinner with a rent with a core crew and then whoever's the host for that month gets to pick the food and i think you do like a special gift like reid hoffman who's the creator of linkedin was in the group whatever and when when it was his turn to host i remember that does he created he created like his own board game of like an anti like was it cards against trump like his own version of cards against humanity but it was just trump jokes and he gave on to every guest right so just like shit like that say was i at this dinner and i was say three observations i've been a couple of these dinners somehow every dinner i go to in san francisco is like at least thirty to fifty percent people talking about psychedelics and yeah your boys never done psychedelics sober is a cat not warrants no no not once way too scared to do it have you ever done psychedelics i really honestly know what count psychedelics i think it's like lsd i think it's like md a i think it's dmt these are all the letters but i i i don't i don't partake any acronyms like this on one time i met this girl and we went out on like a first or maybe it was the second date and this is when i was still drinking so we were a little drunk and then we also took rooms and a little bit of a ecstasy or molly or md you mayor out even open the any of them so i felt i definitely felt a little bit of all one but i was also like pretty intoxicated too so i like it was you know a little bit you know maybe fifty percent of the potency but that was the only time i've ever done it and that was you know fifteen years ago the only acronym i done is dare and that kept me off all of this so but but i gotta say so i've done three of these dinners now in san francisco with like entrepreneurial types successful silicon valley types and it's crazy how much people talk about psychedelics like half the table is are regular users of psychedelics or like you know regular meaning it wasn't a like your story of like i did it once and you know it was it was cool but not not for me or whatever dude i wasn't trying to like find myself i was just trying to like you know i have a freaky night find her yeah yeah we're trying to fight up but it wasn't myself i was certified myself like you know like with each other later than evening that's about it so so in these conversations to me there's there's what what what's coming up is not like it's not bro i got so drunk it's not a brag like that it's i the the conversation is like this weird intellectual thing where it's like one third talking about how psychedelics or else lsd is cool one third talking about public policy like i can't believe these are outlawed it's crazy this is there's and if one third is science it's like there's i don't give a shit about any of those topics there is so much research about how this can like cure ptsd and like blah blah and it just keeps happening every dinner i've gone to san francisco three in a row now half the conversation is talking about this which tells me one of two things it's a pot in the middle of the table like fart flavored is that like a that slices like i'll tell you about with a second they the the thing with with these is is i've i've had this experience once before or twice before where a lot of people in silicon valley are talking about something that i'm like weird and then like five years later it's the norm or seven years later it's the total norm so there is this thing that's like program says if you want to invent the future you first just live in it and and i think that's one of the things that silicon valley is pretty good at is people here will do things like whether it's like like what you're doing bio hacking where you're wearing continuous glucose monitors like tim ferris was wearing continuous glucose monitor back in like two thousand eight or something like that and then a decade later now it's like a thing that a lot of fitness people are doing this whole startups that are built around letting you do this like nut sands or levels or whatever and but it was like very strange at the time but there were there's like small community people doing same thing with crypto back in twenty twelve there's people going into these meetups ups that were like all about bitcoin and then they seem like you know the biggest kind of freaks at the time two thousand eleven to thousand twelve and then a decade later it's on cnbc every day so like i've seen this a few times silicon we can valley where they're somewhat ahead of the curve but of course it's like anything that's out like you know a little bit contrary and it's not all just because it's weird doesn't mean it's always gonna be a thing at the psychedelic conversation that was cool ten years ago now it's it's i mean you can go to i mean i see everyone on facebook saying i just got back from some country where we did an iowa ayahuasca retreat i mean like i normal for most street i think that's like your circle and our might circle a little bit more than it is the average person alright so that was one one piece of it second ai is obviously all the rage the entire menu was created by chat ep so those was basically just typed in i appreciate that i'm hosting a dinner for a bunch of tech people that x number tech people create a menu for for an epic dinner party and it created a full menu that's cool it goes write the whole thing like a shakespeare a shakespeare play and said it just translated the menu into like this like very flower poem basically and then it's like a cool like generate an image using dolly whatever and then basically created the whole menu that way and the chef had to cook whatever chat gp had created which was which is pretty clever including like the drinks and so thought that was that those fun and then the last thing i wanna say is i was talking to one guy and i didn't ask him if i could say this so i i wanna say his name necessarily but he's one of those internet og and i was like i was like so what's your story and he's like well i started a business back in and he says says the name of this company that like i have heard of from the dot com boom and i like you know disappeared after that and i was like oh wow like that's interesting and i was like what was it like back then you know doing a startup up here like he's like it was crazy he's like i knew every single person doing a startup up he's like he's like we used to have like like in san francisco here we used to have these meetups ups he's like we would meet up once a month and he's like it started out with just me and this one guy he named the guy i can think i can named this guy who's the the guy who started next door this guy ne tully and he's like commander were like hey let's get together a bunch of anybody else who you know that's like interested in this tech internet thing like our fellow nerds yeah like if they if you if you don't anybody do an internet stuff let's invite him to this thing and then they created this group and he's like dude the group was insane he's like it was the guy who went to don't you know like the guy who created z guy and the guy who created linkedin the guy who created youtube the guy who created paypal like all of them he's like we would just hang out like it was just like like you know we used to do those mastermind dinners and say see he's like it was like that they you he's like at the time you didn't know who any of these people were you didn't know who's special who wasn't you just knew we're all super rich to the internet but add three zeros to like our success and that was like it was basically the same thing exactly and so he's like he's like we would get together and it was just like debates about like what what's going on with the internet and like what cool stuff you're seeing and he's like we would just shoot the shit late until the night he's like in then afterwards it started growing he's like so started growing then we had like too many people for one table so we made two tables i was the host of one and the other guy was a host of the other table let's lead that discussion then afterwards we would compare notes and be like who should we invite back he's like the key was the internet started growing in popularity like crazy like a lot of people wanted to do internet companies the way that we made the community work was we started pruning hardcore so he's like we were like the bigger the overall community gets the more high level this one needs to get so let's let's only invite back people that we think are like the most dynamic the the people who are gonna do the most interesting things he's like so dude he's like this would have been the best venture portfolio all time like it was like every internet company that's big now they were there and then even the people who were like you'll have like a jack do or something like that it's like they hadn't even done their big thing yet and they're kind of the junior guy at this thing hanging out i that's i don't know if it he specifically was doing but he gave me some some names of of some examples of people that were there because i was like who could you tell at that time was gonna do something and who did he say he's like felt like half the group he's like basically we as he's like what we did was when somebody like stood out of somebody that that really kinda knew where the puck was going we made him a table host so they would host them a table by the end we had like eight nine tables going and there he say of anyone the question i would have asked is the opposite is who's a mega success who he thought oh back do i can't believe he he turned into something yeah and i he did tell me a couple of stories but on both directions people you thought was just this person an animal they're gonna do great things and somebody who's a little over i don't wanna say because you know if they figured it out and that don't want them to be upset or whatever but i would say like one of the things he told me was it wasn't it wasn't the people who were working on ideas that sounded big so all the people that ended up with a big thing the things they were working on weren't the things that sounded like important businesses from day one and it became important eventually iterate to the don't know like it was a bigger space than we all realized it was like it was basically the person that was like kind of like doing the thing that was most interesting to them and not necessarily they're like okay internet internet's gonna be a big deal so therefore i'm gonna create this important sounding real world business on the internet it wasn't that it was like okay yeah the school that people are doing this like like social networking at the time was not seen as a a space that was gonna yield hundred billion dollar companies right like it wasn't that wasn't a thing that was does that that sounded like the frivolous fun thing it's like oh cool you like you can like create a profile like take a quiz yeah you like write something silly on their wall or whatever like that didn't seem like the big ideas and like all the big ideas seem like you know even like things like so it was like breaking into three categories like things that you didn't think were gonna happen on the internet selling cars booking travel like you know it wasn't like it's like are people gonna do that or maybe like home home buying it's like i don't know maybe that seems like something you really wanna do in the real world it's like those seemed like kind of fringe because i don't know if people will do it it was social networking that seem fringe and and small and that that's fun but not not that interesting because we we don't it's free how we're we gonna make a big business out of this you know what do you gonna do with all these free users that are just going on there and goof off and then then there was like you know the things that were actually like important sounding businesses so i thought that was kinda interesting too and reminds me of have you seen this clip as all my last thing on this look up n on tiktok so and n is a is an investment fund and then s x insights insights that's exactly right now i'm on their page watch that first video we'll put this in the youtube video but watch this first video real quick of james career standing there alright and so everyone in that's is all in on generative ai so there's underground see of startups this kind of revolution happens every fourteen years and build are here to change the world and it's james carrier he's on a stage or like a he's on a chair at a room all of like twenty guys share your exceed performance indicators with each other he's saying to people share your ideas the speed of which you move is what gives you and this town and this community its advantage and it's sixty five percent of all money invested in ai it's being invested in san francisco right now so he's given this pump up speech where he's trying to say like you know years ago there was like the facebook but just let you know this is happening right now with ai and he's in a room with people like giving this cool speech and everyone's like staring out adam they seem like they're super into it it's it's so cool so he's literally like he you could see a staircase coming down so he's somewhere downstairs in like a basement he's standing on a chair and he's in a room full people and he's like basically gives them a rally speech of like look this is where the magic happens he's like you're in this town you're in this room you're with a bunch of builders and what he says is every fourteen years or so one of these waves happen and they last somewhere between twenty four to thirty six months and he's talking about ai he's like he's like we've seen this before with mobile so mobile comes out there's just three year window between kinda like two thousand and nine to three two thousand and twelve it happened with the internet and i was like you know kinda like ninety nine two thousand to kind of two thousand and three two thousand four a's like you get thirty six to maybe forty eight months max to to take advantage of this moment and you're in this room you're with other people there's some like basically like there's somebody in this room right now who's building the next big thing i you know i hope it's you but you wanna trade ideas trade strategies trade what you're like doing fine interesting people work on projects with them investing each other like this is your time to focus these windows only open up for a small period of time move as fast as you can and i thought it was pretty i thought it was pretty dope to see this kind of like i don't know this this like i don't know a rally cry and it really does seem like that's what's happening with with artificial intelligence right now like there's a window the big shit's gonna get built right now the the next kind of facebook's of the world are are being built right now and it just kind of re highlights the intensity of the moment if you're an entrepreneur and you heard that parable about like there's a guy who he's there's a big slide and he's on this roof and a guy with a boat comes behind and goes hey come on give my boat i can i to save you and the guy the roof goes no i'm praying to god and i'm a ram religious religious guy got gonna save me and i was nothing guy comes on a boat it's the same thing and he goes no no i'm not gonna get that boat i wanna wait the guy come and save me the app two or three times the guy eventually drowned the dies he goes to the habit and he goes god what the hell why don't you come and save me and guy goes dude i had four boats come and get you like why did you why did you just hop in that was me this video the reason it's someone to that is there's this like james carrier who he's wearing like pretty much an ugly shirt that's like he's wearing like a he's wearing like a tucked in t shirt into blue jeans kind of dad jean i mean he looks like dad he's probably isn't dad the yeah he's said eat five so he looks like he should and he's wearing like kind of an ugly shirt and he's like just a normal looking guy i guess is what i mean and he's giving this really nice speech but in a basement and it's that same thing where like everyone's looking for some big opportunity and from like grand like a epiphany moment it's like no just a guy dressed dresses like this he's did a basement he's telling you like the message is here the message is here and the message is clear and he's trying to shake you by the he's trying to grab you by the color and shaky here and be like hey this it like play playtime is over the window is open go and i love it i think that's i think it's a hundred percent true and i i wanna leave with two controversial opinions it's a video with six thousand views this is this is the man in the books out of just stadium from drowning yeah but by the way the best stuff like the best content i consume the most insightful meaningful content i assume is all like this it's got like twelve hundred views on youtube it's got you know six thousand views on tiktok the like the best stuff is not the most popular stuff when it comes to like business stuff you used to host hustle con and people had to fly out to san francisco pay couple hundred bucks for their tickets spend all day do that not everybody could do that i really could afford the flight the hotel the ticket take a day off work blah blah you put all the talks up on youtube every single one of them was on youtube it's in fact it's on our channel on youtube to just scroll back all the way to the oldest videos all the talks are there and all the talks have like four hundred views and it's crazy it's like oh you wanna be successful and really the same thing like harvard whole curriculum is like online you can go take any harvard class you want online and people will cry about not like not having the the opportunities that the rich harvard kids have when are you talking about all the classes are online you can take a out yeah have the same education that gates had that zuckerberg had access to you got access to all of it and they'll have like nine hundred views and it just shows you that like the the the the real ones are gonna go do the thing the those nine hundred views are like the valuable people like i wanna go meet all nine hundred or people that are that are watching those videos because those are the people that are actually finding so that's segue on that's oh i'll show you're two cut my two two controversial things san francisco is back baby and the second thing is this whole like idea of moving away to lower your taxes and moving away to be remote the best teams are gonna be working together they're gonna be in the room with each other especially pre product market fit but i will take any team that's c located over a remote team any day just head to head if it was a competition i would take the the team that's gonna be in there every day having bunch of ser dividends conversations whiteboard boarding ideas getting to know each other better because they're just spending a like absurd obscene amount of time together i would rather have those people that are willing to commit and go all in like that over a distributed remote team where you're spending half your day actually you know walking your dog and taking care of your kids and doing it do other stuff i think they're just gonna outperform and i think that san francisco is gonna outperform i think that going to the the the then city as like people who care about the extra ten percent in taxes or the people who are like oh i don't wanna live here because you know i don't like the da policy on crime you know i i just think that it's i think it's insane that people in a in a game the where the upside is like thousand x returns that people optimize for a ten percent break in state income taxes crazy to me yeah per bro you name eleven severance let's go close five with stone throw away as nice i'm across the peru peru what person to get though rack that bar i i don't know like the god you got a catapult for that not yep not i'm one easy pass away yeah i you're what an easy fifty mile throw away i i agree with everything you're saying alright this next statement we're gonna call it three killer agents and it's about three people one of those two of those people is a couple that you're gonna talk about but i'll go first and then the reason i'm breaking this up so this week so let me preface by saying i don't know anything about like public markets i i i'm a i'm a index investor i don't do anything like crazy and so i don't know much but this week i paid attention to my portfolio did you pay attention to yours there was a a nice little bop i have not checked what's going on so stocks are doing well the tech sector is doing well and i emailed my banker a text i go griffin what's going on man why why why do i have so much more money than i did the day before and he said nvidia just crushed their earnings and like a lot of people out there i know the name nvidia i know that nvidia is a company but i don't really know what they do do you know what nvidia does they make chips they make the chips that go into your like you buy a gaming pc the graphics the gpu in there is gonna be made by nvidia it's like intel makes chips and nvidia makes chips and amd makes chips it's like three companies that make chips okay so do me a favor you have google up google gary old the the word gary and then alt o l e n a n you know you see what that is e a man old man like old man you see it it's pulling up an actor gary old yeah you see it you see it yeah you see you see gary alright you recognize gary yeah you see this guy around yeah okay tap another guy named gary cole you see gary cole yep another actor k and and what's your reaction when do you see him i have no reaction to this guy what what do i supposed to be reacting to you just like seeing them around right oh yeah sure it looks like looks like a guy nvidia is like the gary's the tech world gary no idea where you're going with that so gary all bear for those of you who are jacob up computer here gary old was the chief on dark knight like the like the top in the dark knight the guy who puts up the bat signal yeah yeah yeah he was also winston churchill and like that the darkest hour movie he plays all these roles for like you see him and you're like oh that guy is great he's awesome he's always there he always had a good performance and everything he's done it's probably pretty good but like he's never like the guy and he's never like i can't tell you who he is i have to look it up say would like there's a bunch of actors were like that that's what nvidia is of the tech world so basically and this gonna sound like obvious anyone who's is in deep tech but for someone like me who's not i have like figure out what nvidia is so basically what the story is is that they create gpu as a gpu chips of the gpu they they exited it so prior to nvidia there was like these other chip companies and they like intel was one of them just like the big dogs who you have heard about the seventies and eighties and and they just make chips that ray in your computer whatever but then as computers got a little bit better jensen hung the founder he was like look we need to have a three d chip for three or a chip for three d video and graphic process so basically like we can like our screens will be more interactive and and all that and so he invent this chip and he runs the company now for thirty years so he's been ceo for of this company longer than any other like newest tech company and he made this bet and it wasn't that big of a bet so when he launched in nineteen ninety three he raised a two million dollar round of funding at a six million dollar valuation so this wasn't like some like you're gonna crush this like it was just a normal startup up at the time but he makes us bet that he thinks that that cpus which is what people used to use that that's gonna be like a little bit less popular gpus which is for graphics and like more general use gonna be like the thing and so the first people who start using it are gamers so in like different gaming pcs people start using it and then apple microsoft whatever they're like oh man we actually also want some of these ships so we're gonna use that but now it's expanded way beyond that so like tesla uses their chips so like when you wanna like do self driving they've got an nvidia chip that helps them figure out like where people are you know the camera will will use the gpu chip and then it will put like you know when you're on a tesla you could see people want you pros a street and then now they're even using for artificial intelligence so anyone who's using like open ai amazon web services things like that they're also using gpu and so this company it's one of those companies that you don't really think about because it's a b company but at this point and this is what shocked me nvidia is now either the seventh or eighth largest company in the war is that insane well and so like in this company because their stock did well the whole nasdaq which is like a text u and a tech based index the market is almost one trillion it's nine hundred sixty three billion right now it's insane right so because nvidia popped the whole nasdaq the whole nasdaq which is a a a a tech based a tech forward like doc exchange that's what i meant that index they're killing it because of that and so i have no idea i like heard that name and i'm like why does this little like gaming company how is this like moving the stock market and that's what it is and this guy the founder the the acquired guys have a really good episode on him james jensen he's like really interesting so he was a taiwanese immigrant and he his parents didn't have any money so they said him to have like a boarding school which is like a reformed school for kids who had issues and like his roommate was this guy who had just got out of prison at the age of like sixteen or seventeen and he had been stabbed like fifty times and so the guy was like hey pick me out you work of peter's and i'll show you kinda lift weights and so if you look at this guy now jensen and he's like a pretty buff guy and he also has like the word nvidia the nvidia logo at q dog and he like says i'll be like really wild things like say by will to to survive is greater than almost anyone's will to kill me and you're like yeah yeah all these phrases right just says like i'm all in baby and so he's a really interesting entrepreneur but he's like the gary ol of the world or we don't actually like he's not up there like we're not watching videos of hey like mark zuckerberg dude jj because he's not like a mainstream facing guy but now i think it's gonna change because they are absolutely crushing it and i'm one of the many people who probably had no idea what they do yeah when the acquired guys came on our pod i think you asked them you're were like hey you studied all these companies you studied all these these epic titans of business and i think you said like who would you not wanna compete with or who would you wanna compete with the least and they said this guy jensen wong they were like jensen the guy from nvidia the leather jacket wearing ceos you got the nvidia tattoo out his shoulder who has just been like you know a monster for like you know twenty years with this company and that was not the answer like i wouldn't have guessed that that's who they would have said and it was an on it was an un fulfilling answer because i was like well i don't know anything about this guy and i bet most of our listeners were like i thought you were said mark zuckerberg or someone famous and this guy just quietly kind of behind the scenes although he is like a loud personality he's not he doesn't see obnoxious but he wears like a cool leather jacket and he looks like very confident but he's just been quietly behind the scene kinda killing it i don't know what his net worth is now but i bet you he's one of like the top thirty or fifty richest people in america or in the world at the moment and he just gave a talk at like the taiwanese like national university or something like that and he i haven't seen it he was like his commencement speech and like he remember list the steve jobs like the great one like the the one he did at stanford that was like just like incredible he that he gave a talk i haven't seen the whole thing but there's a couple of lessons some people have tweeted out wanna share share a couple with you so he's like he was less of one humility he goes confront failure head on and asked for help so he says back in the day or one year in the early days of nvidia they got their first big chip contract and it was with sega the video game console and he goes after a year of development they realized that they had picked the wrong technical strategy to make the chip that was gonna do the things that sega get needed to fulfill the contract and he's like we realized our architecture was the wrong strategy he's like you know we didn't know what to do should we scramble try to make it work should we just deliver something that's not great like what should we do is we start over with a long time he's like so i just called to see of sega and i was like hey i think you would have to find another partner but i also need you to keep paying us on the contract he's like well he's like i hate to even ask this i'm embarrassed if you like if we don't have this money we're gonna go out of business like if you just please pay out the rest of this contract like i'm embarrassed to even ask you this but we need these six months to survive and we we screwed up you know i'll do everything in my power to help you do this and i'll i'll try to make it right after this but like i if we don't have this if you don't pay this contract it's over the show's over for us and the c say i agreed he actually paid it out they gave him six months to survive he's like you gotta confront your mistakes head on with humility and asked for help that saved nvidia he's like this is the hardest thing to learn for somebody who's the this the smart and successful type they try to you know avoid failure or or be denial or or hide from it but also sec he goes second is lesson number two you have to endure the pain and suffering to realize your dream so he goes in two thousand seven we announced cuda this like new way to like kinda like program your gpus that i think that's the real key for nvidia they don't just make the chips they make the pro they make the this cuda thing is is important like it's basically the way that people developers can use gpus and like control the gpu to do what they want seriously by the way they don't even make the chips they like to design them and they have a partnership with this other time company which is why like sometimes they'll say like you'll hear things like well taiwan gets invaded by china we're at the eighth largest company and the world is gonna be kinda screwed which means x y and z for the rest yeah especially all the companies that need chips like oh all of our cars and need chips all of our computers need chips all of our phones and need chips if we lose control the chips it's like losing the nukes or it's like losing access to oil it's like a big deal so anyways so he goes he goes you know we basically we we tried to create this thing back in two thousand seven it was super hard super expensive our our profits took a huge hit and we had many years of poor performance and our shareholders were skeptical like dude why are you spending all this money on this stupid like gpus cuda thing like you need to improve profitability blah otherwise like but we just said no we're gonna keep doing this and basically it took like three or four years before there was even a market for this but by the time there was a market for this they were so far ahead he's like so then the phone comes out and the phone phones become a huge success now phones d gpus and by two thousand ten they had the lead in the mobile chip market so chips for phones and he's like that was huge and oh no sorry the i i screwed up the story the gpus thing becomes a big deal as gaming continues to get to go that direction and like all the ai machine learning stuff but like that was it took like you know almost ten years for that to come through but they like stuck to their guns and stuck with it even though the shareholders and the the public markets were punishing them for it and the last one he's like you know we were in the mobile chip market we were the leader and he's like but it just became so competitive it was so many people fighting for the same pie they basically decided to like sacrifice sacrifice the mobile market you know and leave that in order to do to to go for like you know a a different market this kind of ai machine learning market and again it seemed like a terrible strategic bets like you're leaving the biggest market cell phones in order to go for this like unknown like you know risky thing and that strategic bet paid off because they became you know the but by far the leader in this field and and now that became like you know the biggest market the market everybody's bullish about and the reason their stock is up so much is because they like gave guidance like they had like a revenue target or forecast or whatever there was a revenue forecast and they like just came out like actually we think we're gonna crush that but like thirty percent and they're like wait thirty percent on a number that's already in the multi billions and they're like yes it's so the stock took off after that dude it's awesome so i'm a big sam i'm a big bend of the sky so is it hot or or i think it's long i don't the the the silent age agent they are always a challenge for me but mister jensen of in nvidia you are today's is killer agent number one sean tell me who our killer age at number two and three alright we're going from a guy who makes gpus and and ai artificial intelligence to orange put you in the joke goes too good jimmy to msc fair i met somebody who was like a real estate person and they were like i was like yeah you know how's the real estate thing going they're like dude going great we're growing growing growing i was like so you're still just doing this all with your own money and he's like yeah although there's one person wants about money that i'll take and i was like you've always said no to anybody's money like why who's this one person and why why are you interested he goes it's the guy you started pen to express this guy's a like multi billionaire and he's got so much money but he's got an unbelievable a lot of money that he doesn't know what to do with it i was like you know he's like needs a place to invest this money i was like panda express like how much money they making and i kinda looked into it so this is this segment is panda express the ten billion dollar mom and pop so i don't know how much you know about panda express but a bit it does i i know you've you've tested the the the goods so so basically it's a privately owned company so it's just owned by this husband and wife it does about five billion a year in sales five point three billion last year there are no franchises like of this so they kind of independently own i think almost all there might be like a hundred that are like in international territories that they don't control but for the most part they've grown this thing to a huge international chain it's i think the third biggest fast food chain or something like that it's like you know just behind you know sort of like the the the the the huge ones that the mcdonald's a chick f a's of the world and they are on track to become a ten billion dollar mom and pop company which is just kind of insane and my friend who i who who was telling talking about other names what's up andrew it's andrew like turn i don't know how you say it exactly it's like it's tu it's c h e r n g or something like that it's tim and his wife and they they owned this thing they've run this thing so he started the first one it was like called like the the panda inn back in the day it was like a normal rush i think he was not i think he started dad yeah i think his dad had one his dad the show was like so so his dad was a was a chef and he he opened up panda inn and his dad was the chef of that restaurant and then he then fast food started taking off and andrew got pretty fascinated with this idea of fast food it was like okay what if we did chinese fast food and so they the second or third location they did was this like express this like fast and it was in california right yeah i think there was more agents and they and they start doing a bunch of things that are smart so some of the strategic smart things that they did was they opened up a bunch of locations as they grew in airports and military bases which a lot of people weren't doing at the time but they were like oh this is a great way to build awareness like these are like huge hubs that a lot of people come through if we're here we will become like known and normal as like as like a cuisine basically and so they did those even though those weren't the most profitable locations they did it kind of like for the brand the second thing they the his wife was like a food engineer or something like that and so she was one of the first people in chinese restaurants to use a whole bunch of tech so tech to monitor inventory or measure speed for for operations and that's why they became so efficient and they call themselves mcdonald's of the east because they're as efficient as a mcdonald's even though almost every other kind of like chinese restaurant was it was a a traditional mom and pop they didn't you know they write down the orders by hand they they you know they track inventory by going and open up the fridge and eyeball and everything and being like i we need to order more eggs whereas they turned this into kind of like a machine and they would find things that were working in one store so like this guy in hawaii who owned one of the who's running one of the stores the chef there he created orange chicken and he's like oh i think i could take you know that one beef dish that's an appetizer that uses the orange peels i think i could use that orange thing on the general styles chicken and like combine the two have this fried chicken that's got the orange flavor so panda express and invented orange chicken that's that's what it sounded for my my reading now i don't know if there's others that are debating that but that's that's how they frame it at least and they sell a hundred million pounds more chicken here it's like a same crazy number and so yeah just to insane thing so i think they do almost like eight hundred million dollars of eb and saying know someone thinking amount of money i know someone who knows him and he told me the same number yeah he told me he goes he goes they're gonna knocking on the door you they're knocking on the door of a billion and eb exactly so much cash what do you do with all those money and and the people have asked them are you gonna take it public and the cfo is like never this is gonna be a family business to pass it down from generation to generation our job is to make this a multi generational family owned business and i think that's really cool like there's so few of those that like refuse to go public like why do they need to they're rolling in profits right like they don't they don't need the liquidity of the markets they don't have investors that they need to pull i couldn't find if there was like some angel investors early on that there probably was something i don't know if they own literally a hundred percent but it is it seems like it's either a hundred percent or close to it in terms of their ownership which i think is is kind of insane he also does a few other things so if i remember correctly i might get some of the details wrong but i think that he's the day you start working there i believe he'd like even that like as a i think this is like at the cashier not just like hq ba like a a a a retail worker i think he buys you the book out of win friends and influence people by dale carnegie mh because he said that when he i don't know he is i think he might be an immigrant but his paris were for sure immigrant and he was like trying to figure out how to like assimilate and how to like be more likable and charismatic so he could like get along with americans and he read how to win friends and influence people and it like changes his life i also think he read like they can grow rich and so he like there's people these books and he also sponsors tons of his employees to go to tony robbins so so he's like all about this like self help up which is cool we got a bunch of common and we got a bunch of it and he likes that or his employees and so i think if i if i had a guess when you get to be the size of a hundred million pounds of orange chicken you're no longer like a product company or just like a restaurant company you're a collecting people and making sure that they all behave in a very particular type of way as well as like a logistics company and so in terms of like you know like there's a reason why wanted to dial whenever they something it's like oh that's a huge announcement just because you have to make ribs like dude because they abs go and like get like you know five hundred pounds of pork in order to like make this it's like a huge ordeal but in terms of treating his people well and like collecting people and he like invest i heard into them a whole lot so he's kind of like a really interesting guide i don't know if this is like p r spun stuff where all you know he looks great all the time just from the outside but he seems like he does a lot of really good good stuff there's i i i just asked chat for some fun facts so they give me some some fun anecdotes about them and they said to think about the the books says he buys thousands of copies of of his favorite books one is like awakening the buddha within and gives it his employees another thing that it says is according to your forbes article staff members often start the day with affirmations like people are meant depending on me to be at my best i believe in myself and my abilities opportunities are everywhere and then i don't know if that's that's truly how they start the day but to hell level a lot better than just saying the pledge of allegiance i think we should put this in schools yeah it's crazy i mean two thousand plus stores as a kind of family owned private and non franchise out business is mind boggling level of scale to reach he also two his wife peggy that just like still kind of like own the thing and he does the total opposite of what you just said before he moved to nevada he he the because he's making so much it'd come but yeah i know that he i think nevada is now it was like a big deal when he left california to nevada that's his let's my think is about tech entrepreneurs if you're if you are gonna build a silicon valley style venture startup this this is the place to be for that i'm not saying everybody in the world's live in california if you're you're if you're if you're sling in a hundred million pounds of orange chicken you can live wherever the hell you want that's that's world number three i want you to tell me we're gonna move into the last section here i want you to tell me you've got a little ambitious here you title this section famous people who are back with new companies i don't wanna call them famous maybe notable what popular notable notable notable is a better what let's do notable tell me what you got i don't know if you've seen this but there's a few people who are well known in our industry for for bunch of reasons that are doing interesting things i wanna get your quick reaction to each of them so i don't know if you've seen all these but but we'll start with neville so naval is kinda like the i know one of the godfather of so valley has been here again since that kind of like pre dot com boom days he did a startup that went public and then he you know famously got a big dispute with a bunch of people about it he created a a blog that was called venture hacks and then him and his partner n and they that became that eventually sort of led to angel which is a multi billion dollar startup that's like linkedin for the tech industry and he's known he's got like i don't a million plus followers on twitter because very insightful guy so n is awesome he's got a new he turned into like a he's like a self appointed guru which is brilliant but he's actually i think he's a non self appointed guru i think other people appoint him guru and he's like that makes me a little uncomfortable but i kinda like it he leaned he leaned in doing it he hard but i've i as somebody who's consumed i think every word that devil has said somehow like i've watched all his live streams just podcast all that stuff right love of stuff he many times will be like people you know what don't people be like why don't you do more or have your own things and he's like i don't want i don't i don't like this from playing this role of the screw i don't like how much i like it and i have to be very careful that i don't fall into that i don't want that to be my life and my identity and get excited about i'm gonna i'm just excited about learning this thing because i'm gonna go tell everybody about it and then i think i'm so smart he's like no i don't want that i want to learn the thing because i like to learn it and that's it and he's like you know he's like i you know like it's like junk food when he he's like i get on here and i give random advice to people it's my junk food it's not what i want to be eating and people base their lives on it you out funny it as far that jensen got the video tattoo i got the the vault tattoo at my arm okay so what's air chat thing have you seen it have you played with it k yeah is it just like an a little bit but is it it almost felt like an ai friend is that what it no not at all so it's a app like a social media app so you open it up and there's these like rooms so you can go into a room that's like it might be people talk about ai and it's sort of like it's audio but it's recorded so i could go on there and i could be like you know i was playing with this check and one of the cool things that i've been doing is this has said anybody tried anything that's blown their mind that blew my mind and then another person who follows me can just reply be like dude you're totally right here's what i did and you're hearing their voice it's like voice plus the transcription of it so it's kinda like a a way to have almost like a podcast style thing where you're having a conversation but it's it's open like anybody can kinda hop in that you allow into your room and and the conversation goes wherever it is wherever it goes so i get a little bit of like a dinner party in a way and so there's like for example one of the rooms i liked was the guy mi telling the origin story of angel list which i had never heard before but he was like i'm gonna go back and i'm gonna tell you the orange disorder of evangelist list and it's actually like not what i had thought he's like we had venture venture hacks the blog and that was kinda popular and then i was like i was trying to figure out what to do like how do we turn this into a business and so i emailed neville vol naval vol had own ten percent of it and i was like art all hey i don't know what you think about but like i'm thinking about selling this pdf like okay venture is a free blog but then here's this pdf like we're joking about like the webinar things it's like dude even some of these awesome people did it he's like i'm gonna sell this pdf that will like just give people like templates and neville is like okay that's cool you know for my ten percent just keep it with without this this like this awesome pdf thing you're gonna try to do like go ahead and hold on to my ten percent i i don't need it you need it more than i do then he's like like then when we're driving home from some events after i had told him about the pdf thing i was like ready to go do that and neville had this like i you know like we're shooting shit and we had this idea like oh you know what i really want is like i want a list of investors and just what they invest in what check size because people are always asking us due to venture like hey do you want any investors that would invest in my startup up he's like i just wanna list that i can refer to i was like here's all the investors i know here's what they invest in and here's a check size so when someone asks for an intro i can go look at the list and make the intro and then maybe he's like yeah that's cool i don't think that's a business like it's gonna that's gonna make less money than my pdf but like you're right that would be really useful for us so he's like so i went home that night he's like i made a form and i emailed it out to every investor i know that was like y what you invest in what's your average check size and what's your email address and like you know are you open to people contacting you about like in for introductions for deals he's like gonna i sent it to people and they immediately filled it in it was the ugliest form i didn't even pay for the premium he's like just a reminder that like you know you just need to start needed to get it out there and they like get momentum going and he's like now i i with any project if i can't like launch some version of it in the first twenty four hours it like kinda like it bothers me a lot like i don't really wanna do projects where i can't do that he's like so that was the fur that was v one of angel angels we got this these people back and then we put it on a we put it on our website and then we like got some like compress coverage because it was like oh here's a list of all the angels and it was like on all their emails were there so that was bad we had to take that off and then hide the emails because people were just getting spamming them he's like then that became like the precursor to what angel list was which is now this like multi billion dollar company it was like just this list of angel investors and that was the simplest like useful thing and he's like and so he's telling the story in the air chat and he's like if you guys want by the way like i could tell you the two other ideas that we like you know two other paths that we looked at that like turned up not be not be a good ideas but you know let me know and then you could see that this now i'm like great i'm gonna follow along i kinda wanna hear this oral history of evangelist angel and so it's it's cool in that way right like it's a it's a cool new app so he's coming out with this and he's like i'm a c founder of this and the other guy i think who's behind it is that guy brian nor i don't know how he says the last time exactly yeah yeah who's kinda like well respected in the tech scene as like a product guy a product designer guy and they work at a tinder or something he basically like he started a couple things that like had a bunch of hype but didn't fully pan up but were cool products like didn't work but were cool and then ended up like had a product at like the match group or something like that at ie c and so then he like ran tinder and now he's like doing this i guess so that's kinda like one one app so give me your i don't you haven't played with it so it's hard to get your quick reaction well i yeah you handle like set up her weight list also that's cool only mh grab do do you think that do you think that this is gonna be like a thing i do not so i i think it's gonna be it's actually reminds me a lot of club house in that early on club house was awesome when is awesome because it was such a curated community and it was like they brute forced only dope people onto the platform because that's who their friend group was and so early on with club you would go into any room and it'd be like super interesting conversation you could just hop in and meet people and you could build i i told my friend this was a guy who used to work me jason and i was like jason he still at twitch after he got acquired and was kind of like you know spin it his wheels a little bit and i jason you should just forget about twitch i said every night you should go in club house and hang out there for like five hours you will build like the best network in silicon valley in the next two months if you just do that because i was you're an awesome talker people love you when they meet you but it's just hard to go meet like the power players club house is a place where all the power players are hanging out and they want to be talking to rand because that's what club house is and that they're excited about club house therefore they're excited about talking to rand was like you can go in there and but go from rand to friend in like two months and he did exactly that he went in there i started hanging out and he built this awesome friend group they still hang out in real life today he ended up raising a fund out of that group of people like dude you seem like know a lot about crypto like can you invest all of my money in crypto he's like i don't know and ended up raising like a few million dollar fund invested in made these guys money triple i think you doubled or triple the money and paid it all back and gave stop the fund within like a year which is like incredible and yeah he just like had this awesome networking history rate so to me air chats like that right now you go in there everybody's smart and awesome and like the who's who of of the tech world and so it's great for me as a i user right now i don't think it'll stick like that and i also don't think it'll catch on to be a mainstream social media thing because for one reason audio is too slow people can like scroll and read don't know if some crazy like three or five times faster than audio and so there is it's too slow any social media you're now competing with tiktok it's like how do you compete with the entertainment per second that you get rate that you get from an instagram or tiktok or even a twitter it's all short form bite size just instant dopamine hits and it's like podcast podcasts it's very hard to compete that it'll never be as like you know billions of people are just opening this thing up all the time because audio is too slow and you get too few like hits of awesome ness per per minute that you compare to your other options and other buttons on your phone so that's why i don't think it'll become like a mainstream thing tell me about this trade thing okay so dom who was the founder of fast dot com which was a funny what's the what's the third what's the thirty second story of fast thirty day story fast guy gets his domain fast dot com comes out with the crazy hype on twitter of just fast is gonna be the like the next big thing it's one click instant checkout what amazon did with one click checkout we're gonna do for the rest of the internet and they're just pumping on twitter how fast is gonna be awesome they raised a bunch of money at a huge valuation they're bragging about hundreds of millions right hundreds of millions hundreds of month pre launch pre pre traction basically and a few of us were kinda like i don't know man i'm not sure like where's your customers why what's going on and sure enough the bubble pops people sort of realize that fast dot com has basically no traction it had like i don't know like tens of thousands in revenue as it had like you know almost a billion dollar valuation and the product doesn't really work that great the team is and whatever it all just falls apart i don't remember the exact details of how it fell apart like but i fell apart were burning i think ten million dollars a month of investor money at one point something like that between three and ten million i remember the exact numbers but they were burning an absurd amount of money he couldn't raise anymore because they had no track no traction at at a certain point the investors wanna see traction and so fast just comb bus and then it comes out that oh this guy dumb previously had built a company in australia called tow dot com that was supposed to be uber for towing your car and tow truck drivers and basically like that company also had a dope domain tow dot com dot au and raise money it got a bunch of press got some users but not a lot ran up a bill that he couldn't pay like thirteen million dollar bill or something is getting sued for by this like the the government there because like towing contracts that he couldn't fulfill and ended up just like leaving australia and like starting for like you know he used to be dominic holland and he rebranded us dom in the us and and and did fast dot com so it's kinda like okay this guy's track record i heard so now he's got trade dot com another quick domain name maybe seen this thing trading like yeah in trades yeah and so explain what it is and i'll tell you what i heard about it so it kinda on the surface like most of dom ideas it sounds kinda like a good idea so it says the fastest way to grow your trade business and it just shows a bunch of like you know blue collar types so this guy does like landscaping this guy's got like a tractor and it's like hey we give you a website we'd let you do your customer's book you and pay for you online we give you even easy way to do invoicing you know if you're a professional you know trades person you should be using trading alright that's that that's the pitch it's it's not about bad pitch i it's a good idea now tell tell what you heard about because i think we heard the same thing okay so here i'll read it so someone tweeted they go looking at tri dot com so far eighty percent of the businesses i've contacted from the site meaning there's a bunch of businesses that were listed as testimonials and i i think he said it looks like dom at it again right that's the frame yeah and he was dying he was started again and he was eighty percent of the companies that contacted me from the site don't seem to be real they're shell companies with fake yelp and google listings and ninety percent of them didn't poke up duh didn't pick up the phone t said one treaty made their landing page without permit oh one person who's was listed on the website said that treaty made the landing page without that company's permission and two so far seemed to actually be using the product but trade is giving it to them for free in sponsoring them and then he shows like all the domain names that the same llc that owens trading has also bought all these other domain names that were listed on the website of trade dot com yeah this is has guy justin mitchell j jay mitch is the guy who who tweeted this out and so so yeah like straight off the bat and now by the way i think all those are gone from the trade website so so he's adding again my takeaway is run not not not touching this thing it's the reaction alright and the next two tip top in bay area time yeah let's skip that let's do the pump one so pop friend of the pod is doing something interesting i don't know the full story i haven't talked to him about this have you talked to him about this barrier times thing no not yet do you know what i didn't even know about it i don't even know what it is okay so go to bay times come it looks like so pump is famous for he was one of the early guys who was a very vocal about crypto he started a podcast youtube channel and now he's a whole personality he's pivoted away a little bit from crypto so now he's was just talked about business but also a little bit politics and sports and all types of his his kinda relaunch i wanna talk to you about which is basically like how do you think that's going and gonna go so he was a bitcoin bull he he he popped off in terms of his he's built his audience around bitcoin and saying how mean crypto is and then people will note like you know the kind of like the the crypto kinda haters basically will be like dude look at this he removed the red laser eyes he removed i i'll all i'll mention of bitcoin from his bio and now like he hosted a real estate conference the other day he's hosting like you know start up events you know just like normal start of things he's doing this like his media stuff is not about crypto anymore and so you know i think he's diversifying and kinda shifting away from i think it's working really well too yeah and like i i would just say this i think for most people to very hard transition i would not want bet against pump i think he is a very formidable smart person who is going to be successful in whatever he chooses to be successful and i think he's chosen i'd like to build my hold code to be about these these things instead of just one and i think it's a very hard pivot to make and he's making it very well he's doing it very well so far from what i can tell so he so basically he owns right now he owns i think he owns under executive recruiting company a research company job board what a job board like yeah a job board and like a course that trains you to get jobs and crypto and then what maybe like two more his media customers and then i think he's investing beyond that so here's what he said he goes introducing the bay area of times this is a new product that uses data and visuals to analyze what's happening across business finance and tech on a daily basis so you go to bay area times dot com and basically says narratives dominate the headlines on other platforms writers spend paragraph for the same points over and over again these legacy these products take too long to read they bury the the data deep the paragraphs so and it's hard to recall the information but what if you just want cold hard facts what if you wanna see the data in a single chart what if you don't have ten minutes to read every morning that's what we built this for so every morning they send out email that's got five big stories it's got a visual which is like a chart or graph along with a few bullet points no hidden agenda not fact no bias narrative that's his claim these days he's been testing this with twenty thousand readers and the feedback has been phenomenal go for it right so you could see it's looks like it's built on subs stack see have like oh yeah sorry is oh this hub so we go to the first one alright so like the one that he sent out three days ago it's basically here's the data it's like what's going on in the stock market what's going on a bitcoin gold ethereum etcetera and then it'll be like here's a chart on life expectancy and it says life expectancy has been stagnant for the past twenty years after the covid drop it's at seventy seven years old which is the same levels as two thousand three so that's like the one big chart and then the book bullet points underneath it so he's basically using visuals to and data to explain what's going on in the news i think it's cool i think the worst case scenario here for him is that this makes like two or three million dollars a year and it's very very profitable the best case it becomes hustle morning through whatever it's millions of subscribers and make tens of millions your however much more i think it's cool what do you think i kinda wish this was an actual printed thing i like people that are going into like newspapers and magazines right now i think those are very interesting so there's ago go the newsletter company i always talk about they would say that they would charge like two grand a year and they would send you like a a newsletter but it was a financial newsletter except when they say newsletter they would literally mail it you and they still do this and it was just printed on like printer paper and it was kinda cool for that reason right and i actually agree with you i think that could be cool where you just like literally mail someone it and it comes in like one of those tan envelopes and it looks like it's almost like here's like the here's like like i think the president every day gets like a briefing yeah it's like a presidential briefing where it's like here's what you need to know and like the oftentimes on like just a piece of paper like just give me that but at my house total and i actually do think that would be cool if did we talk about this jumbo mail marketing thing what's up so i saw this on twitter it's pretty cool so basically they they go the the tag is this have you ever received a package of the mail and thrown it away without opening it neither of we and basically they're like ninety percent of people ninety plus percent of people who receive like a stuffed envelope like a stuffed package will rip the thing off and open it so if you go to the twitter is at mail jumbo and basically this the icons is elephant and it goes we create jumbo chunky mail that's guaranteed to reach your audience it's good for real estate investors home services and business buyers and basically they what they do is like you they just do direct mail like kinda like you know here oh we got a bunch of you know like spam in the mail like oh whatever we wanna buy your business or we're real estate agent whatever but they do it in these jumbo packages just to increase your response rate so they're like yeah it cost more but you're actually gonna get more people to to read your thing and i thought this is like a a brilliant simple like side hustle style business that i think also will we'll get to you know mid seven figures in revenue and be a profitable bootstrap business of just jumbo mail marketing there's this guy named sam evans who we've talked about that like ten years ago he have this course called consulting dot com and he would teach you how to become a consultant whether it's like how to do seo for companies i don't know what services they could consultant would but he would teach you how to start a consultancy business and here's one big thing that he i don't know if he says he invented it but he goes this is like my stick is i do the same called lumpy male where i said just a normal envelope but i put something lumpy in it like i forget what he would put but like a figurine or a pen i forget whatever it was but it would make it feel like the envelope had a little bit of weight to it you the reason i do that is because when lumpy mail gets open way more and i can get your attention way more and so what these ads are doing he needs to call it lumpy they're calling it jumbo i saw thought i that they like learn about it from him bud and he claims that it was amazing well the guy who's behind it one of the guys who's behind it is the same guy that does is the mobile home mobile home park guy on twitter who also does like nine other businesses and is like completely he's like if somebody downloaded the podcast into their brain and then their brain said let's do all of them he just take he's doing like nine ideas at once at all times he's kind of a mad man but this is one of his ideas and he did it because when he was trying to buy businesses like i think like the mobile home like buy these mobile parks mobile home parks he needed to do mass outreach and he wanted to increases his the response rate of are they actually even seeing my my offer or that i wanna buy their their their business and how do i get them to reply and so i think this was part of the the inspiration for that i think we should wrap up here but as before we do i wanna give you kudos you said something last pod that was very sunny that totally flew under the under the radar and was if you made it this far sixty minutes in gonna give you a piece of gold that you can you go missy joke that you're gonna tell your friends we said something about like breaking up with someone maybe it was like breaking up in the business really relationship i don't remember but i said something like it's not you it's me and you said yet it's not you it's me in that i think you're horrible and i reg rotated that joke this weekend killed it the re the the roof they loved it i looked so funny there was such that he said that light and it's totally like whether the radar like like it's not you it's me and that i think you're the worst so so that is like a free joke i have just given you something alright there you i've given you the listener something what do they give us when we give them something right you nobody just takes right you don't be a taker that would be yes that would go against our agreement that we have with our listeners i've just given you something sean gave me something that i now gifted to you now i want you to go to our youtube page and are i always call it the itunes page and that just shows us how old ola am i don't know what the the podcast app like the apple podcast app go to both them and click subscribe because if you've listen to this we get do by the way drop comments on 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gonna start commenting back to about anybody that says something interesting and and to that spam out there that keeps trying to trick all of our people into a whatsapp group i'm hunting you i'm coming for you because the youtube algorithm can't get you i will get you i will find it's hard i have a unique set of skills that have prepared me for this moment to find you on every single video and remove your comments yeah ten years of googling has prepared you to reverse image search and figure out where they've made the mistake alright we're on it that's the pot we'll see you all soon yeah i feel like got rude to where know i could be what i want to from at all in it like a days off on a less travel never looking back