#9 - Bonus episode! Answering listener questions

but going from zero to one million in the bank is is a pretty big life change you know yeah i looked at my bank and i was like whole you know holy shit okay like i don't have to work this is a bonus episode so we been getting a lot of listener questions which is great i love getting dms or messages or emails from listeners and a lot of guys wrote in with questions so we wanted to take time and do a quick little bonus episode where we answer questions that you guys write in so i got i'm here sean and i got my partner in crime ish sean almost the same name yeah i guess welcome to you've been behind the scenes welcome to the front of the scenes my friend thank you it's it's really good to be here you wanna give everybody like the thirty second rundown first question is for you who are you and how as did you get involved with the podcast yeah so my sean hawk i'm twenty i'm from australia i've ran a few podcasts before so it's not necessarily a new thing but i've been following sean for years and he reached out to me one day liked what i did before and you know i like the concept of the podcast and from the history made yes and so you do most of the work to be honest and it's been great working with so far and let's get to some of these questions so i think the way we should do this maybe you read the questions that you have in the mail bag and we'll just answer them and go from there awesome but before we do that do you wanna just let everyone know how they can send in the questions yeah you can send in questions through twitter you can dm me at sean vp p s h a a n v or you can find me on linkedin you could do whatever you want you'll you can find a way to get to me so feel free to write in any questions we'll if this is fun we'll do this again with more questions if this is not fun then my apologies we won't do it again yeah agreed so we're gonna jump to the first question here it's from petrol from detroit and he said through twitter i feel kinda trapped in the midwest when it comes to the tech world there's some meetups but nothing exciting for startups out here and so if i wanted to create a conference or an idea generation group they'll attract my demographic how could i plan for it to be successful and i'll just quickly add on to that and saying that he should listen to or anyone listening to this should listen to sam paul's episode who created the hustle and has hosted the successful hustle con exactly and google search sam par how i got speakers from my conference he literally shows the email templates of what he sent each speaker how we convince them to come and it's kind of amazing you could literally just clone that playbook and get speaker's attention that way okay so the question is if you're in detroit how do you meet other like minded people there's meetups ups there's things like that but actually the idea you wrote in there a conference it's actually a really interesting idea i've been to some conferences that are you know also not in silicon valley not in new york they're in these other remote cities that you wouldn't really expect so some examples for you to look up are there's myriad which is a conference in australia these guys are really clever they went to the australian government and they said hey you guys would love to have more innovation in australia right and the government's is like of course how could you say no to innovation and so they got the government to pay for them to host a conference to fly out speakers they literally chartered a jet for me and like fifty other speakers to fly you know a seven forty seven to fly from san francisco all the way australia like a eighteen hour flight to come speak at this conference all expenses paid and it was paid for by the government maybe you could go in detroit to like the chamber of commerce or something like that and see if the city would like to stimulate you know innovation and maybe they could help you know book a venue for for you for free or things like that some other examples like big omaha in nebraska or web summit which is in dublin i would look up the back stories of these conferences and really you know there's no magic secret to it the founders said i wanna have a conference in my hometown nobody knows me today but they reached out cold to a bunch of speakers like a hundred different potential speakers and they got like three of them to say yes but they were because they reached out to a hundred big names even having three was enough to then go down to the tier of like fame and say hey do you wanna come speak of this conference in in nebraska or this conference in norway or this conference in dublin these three big names are coming and then you get sort of a bunch of the next tier to come just because they say well you know if those big guys are coming i'll go yeah that sounds good that's sounds cool and they take advantage of sort of it's like a vacation mixed with work right if for the speaker it's an excuse to get out of the city and go you know on an adventure to a a new place and experience a new city and so i would try to i try to do that i would try to take advantage of i would reach out to a hundred speakers i would try to get three or four of them to say yes and i would i would go you know you know i would go all the way to try to get them on board i would pay for their flights i would do whatever it takes to get three or four to say yes and then once they say yes i would tell the next group of people that are a little less famous hey these four people are coming do you wanna come to and start to build up that flywheel and then because you're in detroit i would think about things that are unique to detroit like detroit is the motor city that's where all the car manufacturers are maybe you could do a conference around self driving cars and actually have it in the sort of old school car city of america that could be really cool and i know that detroit has all this unique real estate like i saw you can buy up a full bank with a bank vault from ninety k like i would try to leverage some of these unique venues and some of the unique things about detroit to try attract a bunch of like minded people to you and through and doing so you'll build a whole network of people in in a year and know there's that phrase your network is your network worth this is one hack to build a really valuable network really quickly is to host an event or conference awesome and so we head over to our next question coming from danielle kaye she's from austin and this through linkedin and she said other founder and c founder equity split best practices yes there are from my experience you wanna do two things with cofounder founders you wanna make sure that these are the right people and not just your friends because it's really easy when you have nothing going and it's just an idea it sounds harmless just a okay you know the three people who were in the room great we're all c founders but you really wanna make sure these are the people that you would choose to start this company with so make sure that the real cofounder founders not just your friends and then on the equity side i like to get it as close to an even split as possible with one caveat which is that they all all the cofounder founders must be full time very common to have you know two people working on this full time and one person's got like a good job that they don't wanna quit or they have you know they're in school and they don't wanna drop out or or take a break a year to to pursue this and so my rule would be if i'm picking founders these are the absolute best people i can think of to start this company with and i trust them implicitly and then for anyone that's full time i would go with an equal split because in some cases you may find that some person is more valuable than the other does a little more work than the other but on the whole having everybody be aligned and taking the sort of you don't want any resentment or selfish in the equation having it be pure where everybody is an equal cofounder you know fifty fifty or thirty three thirty three thirty three that sort of thing i think that is best so there's just a couple rules but for the most part i would keep it simple and keep it equal and so do you think cofounder going to vcs and annual investors might have a much harder time because they might show them a cap table where one cofounder has significantly much less equity do you think that's sort of like an issue going forward for for investors i haven't seen that i've seen some other weird things you know the more sophisticated the investor the more att they are to some odd cap tables so if you see a if you see some weird weird split where one guys got five percent the other guys got ninety five percent yeah that's odd but if you go in and you'd say yeah we're fifty fifty equal partners were c founders they won't really question it again as long as both people are highly competent are great people to be these are the right people to be starting this company with and they're all working full time i don't think investors will have any problem with an equal split if you have a very une split you wanna just have a very good reason why that's the case and why both people are on board with that alright sweet and so our next question comes from eli c he's from toronto and this is also from linkedin he says been listening to the podcast of my way work and it's been super motivating so thank you guys really like the episode ramon so my question is what's been your favorite guest so far and why picking in between my children i see you know i actually like the podcast with ramon the best as well the one that i got the most feedback on positive feedback of people really being inspired and i looked at it and i wondered why you know ramon a likable guy and all but like so or some of the other guys so i wanted to figure out what's the difference and i think the trick with ramon is that he did not have a super complicated but it is very relatable he didn't have a very complicated business he didn't have this like really unique programming skill set or coding skill set it wasn't like he built this huge company sold for a billion dollar it was like very relatable and achievable it was you know i started a blog i used wordpress i don't know how to code i used you know kind of facebook traffic to to build it up and you know the net result was he built a blog about soap opera and sold it for nine million dollars and he he sold he sold it like to just a guy not like oh i then had this investment bank that sold it to you know amazon or whatever it was like it was just very relatable and so i really like that episode not only is he a humble guy but it's a story that i don't think anybody knew about and it was very relatable and i got the biggest feedback from that so that's my favorite guess so far yeah i think ramon is probably my favorite too so we'll head over to the next question it's coming from thomas p from detroit this is also through a twitter and he said following the hustle for a year now and the podcast has got me thinking if i ship pursue my own hustle but i currently have a great paying job that was hard to get and scared to make that change what are some boxes i should tick before making the switch that's a good question and it's also a good position to be in right you got a great job and you wanna do your own hustle and you've got motivation ambition you're just not sure if you should make a switch yet the blocks you wanna take are not actually related to the business itself this is a bit controversial so some people say user nights and weekends validate that the idea is good and then go for it i kinda think the other side i don't think in your nights and weekends you can really you know quote unquote validate an idea or or get a sense of if it's safe to go or not the fact is entrepreneurs are the ones who just stick their neck out there and go do it and figure out how to make it work and so when you know when you're ready to make that jump you should make the jump now what so so how should you think about this how should you think about you got this high paying job do you stick with it or do you make the leap of faith and go to kinda zero salary the way i think about this is you gotta look at your net end goal is your end goal to be you know financially free and wealthy if so there's really two paths to it you could work a good job for like twenty years or you can try to own equity in a business and and make that equity valuable in a sort of five to seven year time period it's up to you which which path you wanna go down for me i was pretty dead set that i wanted to be wealthy and i knew that a job would never make me wealthy even if you had a job that's you know say you have a really high paying job it's earning you know four hundred thousand dollars a year well you're gonna be paying so much in taxes because when you're an employee the tax man gets his cut first and you're gonna spend all your time at that job essentially working for somebody else and that person owns equity in the business and so you're going to have a long long path of saving you know after taxes after your life expenses you're gonna try to put away fifty grand hundred grand a year or something like that to get to financial freedom it'll take you ten twenty years at least whereas if you make the leap of faith and you believe in yourself to be able to build a business well you can you can get there much much faster if you're successful and so for me the question really comes down to what's your end goal if you're end goal is about making the most money then then a business is the way to go if your goal is to enjoy yourself the most then you really get ask yourself do i love my job do i get excited every day when my alarm clock goes off do wanna hit snooze or do i wanna get up and go do this thing that's a personal choice that you gotta make but it sounds like if you're already thinking about it that means that that's the path you wanna go and there's not gonna be a right time your high paying job is gonna stay a high paying job most likely in fact you might get promoted every year and so the longer you're there really the more hesitant you're gonna get to to make the switch and so i would think about what i want commit to making that happen and then i would make the leap that's my personal advice you know that sort of reminds of this meme i saw one time of ceo talking to his employees saying you see this lamborghini if you guys stay in light works as hard as me hit all your targets hit your goals i'll buy enough one yeah exactly exactly sort of the the trade that peep that most people make is they trade you know certainty they would rather be certain that they're gonna be stuck in the middle of the road and have a have a salary for they'll they'll give up the upside and usually the person who owns the business is making the opposite trade they're willing to live with uncertainty but they wanna keep all the upside and the best thing there is that you can get to the point where your money you have enough wealth from you know your first endeavor from there on out it's your money that works for money and the best thing about money is that it works twenty four hours a day it works for generations without getting tired and so you really wanna ask yourself today i'm trading my worse for dollars i'm you know i'm using time to make money do i wanna get to the position where my money earns me money if so even a high paying job is gonna take a very very long time for you to get there and so it's just about looking at your own situation and deciding what's what's right for you yeah so i guess adding on to that question maybe putting a bit of a twist what if you had obligations you know some people have you know children you families it makes it that much harder to sort of you know make that leap from a good paying salary to zero right yeah of course yeah if you i mean obviously the more responsibilities you have you know a mortgage a family those sorts of things the harder it gets to give up you know guaranteed income and so you know what some people do is they they pile up enough savings where they say okay we can i can go for two years without earning money now and so you just you figure out what is my monthly burn rate and then how do i get to twenty four months where i could not have to work and i'm i'm willing to dip into savings during that time to build a business and they they give themselves that much runway but it's really about your risk tolerance right like we had michael birch on on recording the other day and he was telling his story you know now he's known as like he's a billionaire essentially and but before that you know he was telling the story of he quit his job his wife you know she took leave because they're were having the first child and he was willing to move back in with their parents if it all didn't work out he wanted to be working on for himself and so he was willing to take the risk and bet on himself in order to make it happen and they ended up mortgage their house twice you know had had two kids during that time and he still made it work it took them you know three years to find out and to get to that point where it actually started working but they were able to you know keep their expenses low and continue on that way and he had a supportive partner who's on board with that game plan yeah awesome so i guess going into the next question this is from rohan m from our hire and this is also through linkedin he said love reading the hustle so i just had to start listening to the podcast what's the biggest time way when starting an idea and so i guess to elaborate on his question you know i think some people tend to spend time and money on thinking of a name buying a domain hiring artists for a logo and not necessarily making the investment into the actual product and so you know you've built you know a lot of products you know you've worked in a lot of start what have you personally seen the commonalities in in this craft that has wasted a bunch of time okay so the biggest time waste that i've seen on any project and this is not even about startup this could be in your job the biggest time waste i've seen is that people like to make lists they'd like to do research and make this so let's say your your job is to look up a bunch of vendors and when we're trying to find a vendor so can you make that happen in a week what most people will do is they'll say okay i need to find a vendor and so they'll go online they'll go out google and they'll start searching for vendors and instead of just finding a vendor calling them up asking them for their price seeing if it's within the boundaries of what they're looking for and making a deal they will first create a spreadsheet called vendors and then they'll make a list and they'll write down like you know twenty names twenty emails twenty phone numbers some notes on each one and and people love making lists rather than actually just reaching out and trying to make the thing happen i have a rule when we do this whenever we're trying to do a project i will tell the guys what we want is to in the next hour we wanna reach out to a customer or we wanna reach out to a vendor we wanna reach out we wanna actually fire the bullet we don't spend a full day just loading the chamber of the gun and so making lists i found is the biggest waste of time and making the list typically involves a lot of research and a lot of writing down things and it's this false sense of productivity because you look at this giant spreadsheet and you say oh man now we're really prepared now we got this huge list that was a lot of work but the reality is it was just easy work because you didn't have to get out there and actually you know interact with the market in any way you were just doing research on your computer so biggest time waste i've seen is making lists the second biggest time waste is making up stories stories are like oh yeah we don't wanna reach out to the customers until we really have our pitch down because we don't wanna make a bad impression these are types of stories that people tell themselves in reality you wanna say who's somebody i could reach out to in the next hour or or three hours that i don't mind if i have a a totally terrible pitch because you know they're kind of the bottom of the barrel anyways so so we don't mind losing out on them like when i wanted to do this podcast i didn't make a giant list of get potential guess instead i made it you know a list of three guests and then i have reach out to all three of them with a pretty bad pitch in fact three different pitches and i just tried to see does any of these get a reply and that was far more productive than trying to long and really craft perfect pitches you can only craft a perfect pitch by trying a pitch a hundred times with real people and so that's how i'd like to that's how i recommend people approach their projects awesome and i guess on a semi related note our next question comes from bianca from salt lake city and she says your podcast has inspired me to start my own but i don't know many interesting people to get on like you guys do so how do you guys get guests on or reach out to them good question so i kinda cheated i went to my friends first so if you if you can do that great do that if you don't know anybody who's a potential guest don't be afraid to just reach out cold again this goes back to my answer about conferences you'd be surprised how well cold outreach reach works turns out that successful people both enjoy giving back to like up and coming people who are hustling and b really it's part of their job to talk about themselves in their company so at some point you turn into a spokesperson either for your own brand or your company's brand and part of your job is to preach the gospel about your story and so just find something to offer them find them you know offer them a way to to to tell their story and ideally on the other side you say you're gonna reach a big audience that you that you that doesn't currently know about your story now maybe you don't have a big audience my hack for that was i got distribution through the hustle so when i reach out to guess i said hey love their story especially this particular part you know so they can tell that i did some research i actually know about them and this is just generic and then i said you know i'd love to have your have you on my podcast it's called my first million here's what it's all about we are you know we partnered with the hustle they have this huge audience that loves stories like yours i think it'd be a great fit what do you think they say yes no or maybe right and so that's what i would do i would try to reach out to successful people don't be worried it's part of their process to either give back or talk about themselves in their company and then lastly try to find something to offer them say you know i have a bunch of college listeners and maybe they don't have a great way of reaching college listeners right now so ideally you have that on the other side but even if you have nothing even if you're they're gonna be your first guest you have nothing else to offer you still have you know a microphone to offer which is a way for them to tell their story people like talking about themselves they like talking about their stories it's it is fun for people and if you come off in a genuine way you'd be surprised i'd say you know one out of three people will just say yes and i guess know just the other day you were dm twenty twenty us presidential candidate andrew entry yang yeah exactly i you know like i saw him on the debate and i looked at his twitter's dms are open and i said hey andrew come on the podcast and i told him i said hey your message would resonate with our audience we have a big audience they would love to hear from you now i know he's a super busy guy but you know i just shoot that off and i don't think twice and you know stuff like that actually tends to work out in fact somebody else who knew that i was reaching out to him said hey my friend actually knows him we could probably get him on and so we're gonna reach out to him through that guy now but that never would have happened if i wasn't of the open mindset to say to believe that guests will wanna come on my show and bianca that's my advice to you is believe that people will wanna come on because people like telling their story and so the next question comes from nathan v from brighton and he says love the name of the podcast and so it's only right if i ask what do you think is harder the first million or the last and so i guess what he's trying to say is you don't have you have that warren buffett quote when he said you know the first million is a bitch i think that's what he's trying to get out okay so the question is what's harder the your first million or your last million i i mean i don't know why your last million would be harder i don't know what i don't even know what the last million means that like your last million before you died do you understand this question yeah i think i think what you're trying to say is like you know your first million is zero to one is a complete grind and it's very hard to get but he's also saying you know going from you know one to nine and ninety nine million you know get your last million before you get to a billion you know it's sort of like gotcha okay so so so the question is kinda like you know is the most recent challenge the hardest one or was it your first one the hardest one so for me the first million was definitely the hardest you know going from zero to one is really really hard and it's also the most valuable like if you just think in terms of your like the impact to your life going from no million to one million is a lot more valuable than going from one to two and so and and it just gets easier and easier from there as in like you know going from ten million to eleven million is really not that big of a difference in terms of life quality you won't even really notice it but going from zero to one million in the bank is is a pretty big life chain you know yeah i looked at my bank and i was like whole you know holy shit like i don't have to work now know it's been on i probably should because san is very expensive but but i don't have to actually and and that was a kind of a mentally freeing that was a great day that was an amazing day and so it kind of allows you the mental freedom to then ask better questions like well how do i wanna spend my time and that's that's really the question i always should have been asking but i was so fixated on money that i really wasn't thinking about time and so anyways i think that the first million is by far the hardest i also think that is the most valuable and the biggest sort of step change in quality of life plus your mentality your mentality will change when you don't have to work for money every month it'll allow you to make ask better questions and make better decisions awesome and so the next question comes from michael t he's from boston this is coming from twitter and he said the caliber of guests on the pod has been great so far and so what are your dream guests to get on that you think will make you happy enough for it to be a lost episode and end the podcast okay like my last meal you know i i hope i hope i don't end the podcast i would like to not end the podcast even if i have an amazing guest on but i get the essence of the question like what would be what would be like the peak there's two people that i really wanna get on like the first two names that come to mind the first is business related which is naval so naval ra i think is probably my favorite thinker in terms of he he talks a lot about business and how to successful business but he also talked a lot about philosophy and how to you know lead a good life i've learned a lot from him and would love to have him on the podcast so neville is like my bucket list guest one and my bucket list guest two and three are other people who have really shaped the way i think one is conor mcgregor he's a u fighter five years ago he was a plumber living on welfare in ireland and now he's like on the forbes list and worth over a hundred million bucks and it's all sort of self made from self belief and if you look at the interviews of him five years ago when he was an absolute nobody again living on welfare he at that time was saying you know i'm the best fighter in the world i'm gonna be the most successful fighter i'm gonna be the richest fighter he truly believed it and talked about how why he was gonna approach it so his his approach to life is very interesting to me he has one of my favorite quotes he says you know you have to feel some type of way like on any given day you gotta feel some way you're not just gonna have no feeling so you gotta feel some type of way why not feel great why not feel unstoppable why not feel like you know why not feel amazing and and that little quote has really stuck with me because i think some people look for excuses to feel happier or sad you like they're wait for something good to happen to feel good his answers sort of like you're like how do you feel is a choice so why not just choose to feel unstoppable why not choose to feel amazing and not wait for something amazing to happen for you to feel amazing what if you could just feel amazing just because and so that that always was stuck with me is my desktop wallpaper for a long time that quote and the other last person would be tony robbins so i'm a big i'm a i'm a c aid drinker of tony robbins i know a lot of people have different things they wanna say where you know it's a cult and he's a salesman and all the stuff all i know is i went to that guy's event and it changed the way i look at the world it's the closest thing to that i have to like religion it's like a philosophy about life about the way the way to be so he's amazing and i would wanna have him on the podcast and i've heard him on some podcast podcasts he's actually kind of boring on podcast podcasts because he just says the kind of surface level stuff so i would love to like ask my questions the real questions and get a little bit deeper with him i don't know if his p people would have it but that's what i would like to do so that's my answer and i guess sort of going off that do you think that you know self belief in yourself and having the absolute assurance of knowing the outcome is that sort of a trait amongst the very successful people that you've really noticed you know i think that there's a lot of ways to win i've met some successful people that are like you described un unmistakable in their confidence they would know with absolute certainty it's gonna work in fact silly who was the first guess on the podcast he always says this you know some people when they go into a project they they say things i do this they say like you know i know the odds are that this is not gonna work out but i'm gonna know i'm gonna try anyways or like they invest and they say you know i know that this could all go to zero and i know i'm willing to bet money that i'm willing to lose and he's like i'm the exact opposite like if i do something i do it because i think i'm gonna win i know i'm gonna win and all i say is how do i win and he doesn't even think about failure he doesn't let failure be a possibility in his mind you i've met some people like that i met other people that are like crippling paranoid and they're constantly worried that things are not gonna work out even when they're clearly working and that works for them and so the one commonality i see on both sides is session having an obsession around what you're doing making it great thinking about it nonstop that's the thing i see in every successful person some of them are confident that's why they're you know that that lets them have that obsession through thick and thin some of them are paranoid and that's what keeps them up oh you know up at night and that's what keeps them obsessed some health some drivers are more healthy than others but i'd say obsession is more common than confidence i think it's totally normal for my experience to feel self doubt you can't let that you can't let that take away your action or your ability to take take action on what you're doing but i think doubt is normal and i think it's really dangerous when people just say oh yeah you know this successful person they were they're always you know they're super confident because that makes people feel like when they have that you know that seed of doubt in their mind like oh i'm not one of them i know i'm not wired that way and i just don't think that's true i'm so i've i've seen it on both sides yeah and i guess sort of going back to the other question about dream gas i think my one would probably be mouth pull yeah thanks yeah i just think he's you know a really great speaker of very engaging and i think it do really well on the podcast and also we'll probably have to rename how show to my first billions i hope he comes on for season two and so i guess it will hop on to our last question this is coming from shaun d from dallas and he says keep up the great work started listen to ryan who episode which is a good episode and fan product aren't really interesting idea and super useful website so thank you for that what products are you most excited about in twenty nineteen that's a good question okay so i got a great answer for this i have a great answer for you i tried a product yesterday that blew my mind my my friend and the cofounder founder if i started before we sold fur he bought me a oc quest if you don't know what a oc quest it's a vr headset vr stands for virtual reality and so it says thing you put on your head and you got two little controllers in your hands and it's like if you've seen the movie ready player one it's like that you're in a your in virtual world and all of this sounds super nerdy and so i was a hair on vr i had tried vr maybe two years ago or a year ago and it was clunky it was uncomfortable you had to like plug it into a computer you had to have like a big computer at home like a pc to plug it into you had to set up these trackers around your room i was really inconvenient to put it away and put it back out and the games were kinda like boring nothing was cool well it turns out everything has changed so the hu quest is amazing it's wireless it's super easy to use like the first thirty minutes when you put it on your head and it like teaches you how to use it is like mind blowing it's probably the most magical product experience i've had in a long time you go through this tutorial where you're like picking up little objects and you're throwing and it's just like so responsive it feels so it's not clunky at all they have this little robot that comes out and dances with you robot walks up to you and it's like it sticks out her hand and it's like dance with me and you know i'm sitting on my couch i'm like pretty skeptical about this and reach out my hand and the music starts and then you you know as you're you know you could t the robot you can do all kinds of stuff it's crazy how responsive so all that sounds a little bit weird the cool experience i had and the reason he got the quest was we've been one to have a poker game for a long time you know i played poker for many many years online he played poker you know semi professional as well and we've been wanting to have a poker home game for a long time but it's really hard to get everyone together find a venue get the chips there all that good stuff people schedules are are a you know all over the place so our solution was let's buy ten of these oc quest let's send it to our friend and you know thursday nights we're gonna get together in the poker stars has made of vr app we'll get together this we'll get together at a poker poker table and it's kind of amazing like if you if you put the headset on you sit at the table and your cards are in front of you and you reach out your hand and you grab your cards and it picks them up and you can see them and if you wanna if you wanna bet you have to like physically pick up the chips and you like toss them into the middle of the table and it like splashes just it looks so real if you look at the person next to you you'll see them and they have the little avatar and you just talk out loud so it's like you're at a poker table with somebody so with us it'll be a group of friends and we'll just be able to look around talk and we're all in the comfort of our own home at our own couch playing poker together with this you know automatic dealer and it's got all these crazy things you can like pull out these like little objects you can pull out like a cigar and your friend your friend can take out a lighter and light your he reaches over and lights your cigar and then as you breathe the smoke comes out of your mouth like it is it is so wild and it's pretty cool i don't even know how this will sound if somebody's listening to this probably like what the heck this guy talked about i'm gonna like literally upload a video of myself playing in the poker game because it is so crazy i will watch that and if you haven't if you've never tried it you gotta try this thing the oc quest it is it is really amazing anyways that's the most magical product and so you can buy the oc quest at oc dot com backslash first million pod yeah exactly they're not a sponsor yet but you know i i think facebook owns oc so hey facebook kept the check if you if you heard what i just said time to cut the check alright i think that's it for the q and a sorry to a bunch of people who we didn't get to your questions let us know if you like this so you can dm me on twitter my handle is at sean s h a a n vp or you can just email me my last name p dot sean at gmail mail dot com and i think just you know search our names any of us on linkedin instagram twitter and you can send in questions but really we're this was kind of an experiment so we wanna see when guys think about these q and a episodes so it's if we should keep doing them or if this should have you know this is a one time thing and we won't do it again so it depends on your feedback we'll we'll we'll take it on board thanks everybody for listening and we'll catch it with the next episode yeah thank you guys