#115 - Selling An Erotic Newsletter and AI That Leaves Us Speechless

u yeah i feel like i could rule where i know i could be what i want to put at all in it like the days off on a road travel never looking back alright we live yep alright we have alex on the pie just for a minute alex works with our advertisers and stuff like that so sean this morning we had like this thing we do crew review where we like to do a company update and i got a big shout out because apparently square loved the ad okay and okay they gave me all the credit it's a sam be the best ad read and i like everyone was like congratulating me and i have a confession so by the way today we had our crowd that was our sponsor today or or if you're just starting to podcast you'll hear them in like ten or fifteen minutes so check them out but in the future we're gonna have square at as an advertiser sean did all the reed for yesterday and i got all the credit so i just wanted to conclude i did i didn't do it you did wait so they shouted you out where then squared chatter out somewhere they like told alex who right and what did they say alex yeah yeah so i got an email from them or from the agency that they work with and they just said this is the best ad we've had ever out of all the podcast podcasts that we've run so they're super excited about it and i triple our prices i know that's all that means i think unfortunately our internal team just assumed that sam recorded it i think not that's not the case i did not correct me sam or one it doesn't matter who says what so alex thank you for i i'm sorry i didn't spill the beans earlier and it wasn't me though that's okay look we'll give shaun a shout out in our next crew review yes but i wanted to come clean live so they could everyone could hear the the truth what is this word you're saying that you guys do a career review what is it crew crew review like a we have this our whole company is like pirate shipped theme like lisa so it's like there's like i don't know i just i said a long time ago that we're a pirate ship and every email that we collect is like a little bit of within our sales and it kinda like someone ran with it i don't know who ran it but fired fire you have to walk the plank we yeah we should do that but like so we've had we have pirate shipped themed meetings it's just a fun thing anyway alex thank you for filling in hotel square and and by the way our crowd that we're we're happy they sponsored us and if you're just now listening to this you're only like two minutes into the podcast when's the ad when's the advertisement come in at ten minutes or fifteen minutes somewhere somewhere there alright so keep listening to the fifteen minute mark and you'll see exactly what we're talking about you'll hear sean with those wonderful ad reads great alright thank you alex you can click x we appreciate it alright what okay sam i'm people wanna know where are you in the world now you're in you're in new york is at the latest stop of brooklyn okay so as of right now i am currently sitting in a browns stone that i rented and i'm in where am i'm in kabul hill it's like a nice neighborhood in brooklyn and i've already been stopped by two or three times two or three times i've only been there here since saturday of listeners of the podcast so that's amazing they stop you on the street yeah wow and dude the i guess i'll tell the story so the he doesn't know i know this i hope he's not listening but the guy so i went and rented a a house a few days ago and the owner was like are you sam par from the hustle in the pocket i was like yeah what's going on man how are you and i and he's like this baller guy and i went and googled him and it's tyra banks his old boyfriend and i was like the reason that's important to be is that was like my my she was like the number one in my life as as team yeah so but anyway i'm currently in cobb hill brooklyn it's pretty cool okay i like it do you like immediately zillow any house you're in that you rent to be like how much would this house be to buy yeah this house i'm in now so my budget throughout this whole experience is gonna be four k a month okay but be because i stayed in saint louis and because i stayed with family for a month it's like my budget can double for the next month so for the month of for the next couple months because i'm gonna move out texas for a bit i'm kinda ball out and spending like eight k a month ten k a month so i'm i'm in these like five million dollar single family homes which is pretty baller in brooklyn and and and it's great and does it make you wanna live in a ball place or are you're like oh you know what it doesn't actually matter you know the the small place in the big place they're all kind of the same no so it matters so the layout matters more than the size but i think for a couple with me and sarah i think two thousand square feet is like the sweet spot i don't need anything more because it just gets messy but what's essential is a front porch that is like the most fun i've had is just sitting on the front porch and say hi to people i saw you say that i was like don't you need to be like a smoker or something to like what do you do on the porch well i have a dog so we just sit there and i work but i you're on your laptop having a front porch is awesome and another thing that's awesome that people like to hear owning nothing is sick dude it's so fun i love that you said that people like to hear because they people love to hear that shit people love to hear about how minimal you live they love that it's sick man i only own so i have two bags of clothes and then sarah has a couple bags i'm gonna reduce it to one bag like a a one carry on that's really all i need and then i have a coat and i'm good to go but i like i went and i splurge and got a kinda lulu lemon stuff and i'm like i can wear that for every occasion right but man it's wonderful not owning anything i have so much less stress yeah i agree with you i the one thing that gives me the most stress that i own as a car and i feel like a car is like probably the worst fucking thing you can buy like you know and i did the worst way possible i went with my wife and we just i wanted to buy a car like that day and get it over with so we just went to a dealership we went to four dealerships we were like okay let's test our bmw audi porsche whatever else and let's just pick one and let's buy it so we just bought a new car off with dealership which is like the ultimate sucker move and then we drove it off the lot lost half its value you bought it a brand new yeah and then you know in general just decided like i'm gonna like you know i'm not i'm not care about this car so i basically although i bought a car that was like kind of a nice car i decided the stress is not worth it so i just treat it like it's a piece of shit car that i don't have to worry about like i don't care if we gets get sc didn't you pay eighty grand for it or something i did but i the the i didn't wanna double the mistake by then stressing out about an expensive car so in my mind i treat it like it's a it's a free car that's not mine it's my neighbor's car that i just don't have to worry about it no matter what the situation is so like the mirrors cracked the mirror is cracked and i'm like whatever who cares i i i have no no sweat that stresses me out how are your immigrant parents not like kicking your ass or about that they do they're just like this is crazy why are you so irresponsible with how you spend money because i'll just spend money like crazy like i'll order all kinds of shit i'll buy buy stuff online i ordered food like i'll order like three hundred dollars of groceries whole foods and then like door dash while it's on its way because i wanna wait for it you know like i'm just like i wanna meal too and so they just view me as like kind of like a crazy irrational kid but they also see like how much money i making and so they're like okay whatever i guess it's working for you and so my mom has now like backed off and my dad has like given up he's just like you're ridiculous and i don't wanna be a part of it it you're were you've been like this so for years you haven't been making money for years right i mean for a long time you were just like normal like yeah but i i really stepped it up and i'm real blatant about it now like i'll buy something and then it doesn't work and i'll not return it i'm like i wanna deal with it and so that like you know so i've definitely like just taken some liberties now that i wasn't taking five years ago but yeah i've always been more like i'd rather learn how to make more money i'd rather focus on making more money than saving money at any given time of my life and now i'm just more disrespectful about it towards money that's funny that's i'm we're not cut from the same cloth at all i i'm not like you at all i'll give you a quick quick trainer story my trainer he we were talking about this and he was like he's like oh dude he's like on the way over here i stopped got food from chipotle and came out and i noticed that i had like a little nick on my car he's like and this used to drive me crazy like oh my god i parked and somebody nick my car and ran away and he was like this would have this would have been like you didn't just nick my car like you you nick my whole fucking life bro and like my whole day is ruined i'm pissed i'm like he's like i used to have like red rage if somebody that cut me off or whatever i'd like follow them down and like we're gonna have a conversation about this and he's like you know now i've basically like gone through this strategy like he's like i won't let anybody nick my whole life and so now i think about that whenever like you know some shit goes wrong it's like okay i get like ninety seconds to be pissed and then i'm i'm done being pissed that's great i agree with that but then if you're gonna do that also consider buying a twenty thousand dollar used minivan yes that's for sure that's my again i'm not saying my way was smart i'm saying my way was dumb but i didn't double down on my mistake i should have done it smart right but hey the good thing is there's this tax law that basically because i use this car for business and so i bought a i i looked up this ahead time which is if you buy this car that's like a heavy commercial vehicle go over whatever it to six thousand pounds then if it class his commercial vehicle and can pretty much be completely written off for for your business and so so that's ain't me a lot of money because i had enough write offs i had enough income to to to deduct against that let me tell you one more story before we get into it is i met up did i say this last time i don't think i did i met up with ty pe the other day you did talk about this i said it was cool yeah he said he went and grabbed a drink or something like that he was cool yeah i i i i couldn't remember if i brought that up anyway than fine not interesting but i feel like there's more like you didn't just meet up a title lopez for a couple hours and not have a little nugget to share so give us a nugget what what happened he taught me a lot about hiring because i was like how do i hire executives because like he you know we have a couple friends who do this and they buy companies and they install ceos and for some reason all of our friends who do this dismiss it like oh yeah you just hire right yeah it's like it's simple but it's not easy and he did the same thing and i was like dude i like you're not like tell me about your interview process like they just like like seem very stress free and like oh you beep up boop you just do it like and so he taught me about it and he was what did he say he goes there's three things that he likes to do one he does an iq test so he like he wants for certain roles you have to be of a certain iq two there he does trial yeah two he does trials like everyone gets a trial like he pays him as a consultant he'll we'll hire multiple people and just throw them in and so he wants to work with them before he hires them and three what's the third one i wrote it down trials consultants oh he when he interviews for the one role he make sure he asked the exact same questions every single time and a very planned set of questions it's not like just shooting the shit in the interview right i make yeah i do that all the time i i've never like done an interview properly so he taught me a lot about that so that was cool it's he was telling me about the pier one and mod acquisitions and it just like sounds like great deals if what if assuming what he says is true which i no idea we we i don't know i'm not gonna say actually which hotels was a nice hotel so i got to go up and hang out with him i don't know it was cool okay sweet we'll leave the story yeah you would have to hotel room alright great he he he he says that he gets he told me he gets recognized like walking down the street new york like constantly to the point of like he has a bodyguard yeah that's cool i can imagine that by the way when i say that's i mean that's fucking kinda annoying that's must suck okay so what do we got for ideas we we kinda bullshit it around for a little bit so what do you wanna talk about what's interesting let's talk about the nurse shoes because i actually had multiple people talk to me about it yeah so so jim hoffman jim w hoffman on twitter sent us something pretty cool that i like so ex nike guy decided to come out and make shoes for nurses and they are good looking i like them a lot it's called ba ba a l a and their premium nursing shoes and so you could see they have like a shit ton of foot support because nurses are like on their feet all day and that's why a lot of doctors wear these like crazy clog looking things and same for people in restaurant kitchens and whatnot but said he did seven hundred fifty thousand in sales in five days launching this campaign if you go to the website it's like a pretty sick looking website i kinda love this idea i think this is a a great idea i've been pretty into whoever's is gonna build the brand around like medical ware so i looked at cool looking medical scrubs that are like fitted instead of super loose or have designs on them rather than just being plain blue and this is like a new this is a different angle which is shoes so what do think of this idea i think it's kind of all yeah i'm pulling it up it was it a kickstarter or something like can you see the live fails i thought so i thought when jim sent it to us he was saying they did seven hundred thousand and kicked and kicked their kickstarter campaign but i went to kick there's no kickstarter for it so i think he meant they launched this youtube like this ad campaign basically and so there's a youtube video that he sent over that i guess is how they announce themselves of the world so i'm pulling it up now i think it's awesome i think it's badass so there's another company that made scrubs we talked about them right we've i think we've talked about them what's their name again do you remember i don't know bra can you maybe find it it's a they're doing well like hundred million dollars a north of a hundred million so it's scrubs startup i don't know if i google that one is it called figs i think it his figs yeah that's right figs a great idea okay so i love i i looked at the shoes they look fine they they look cool enough that i would buy them if i was a nurse right i don't know if they're groundbreaking baking probably not but cool enough i love this okay so according to figs a five year old this from the wall journal figs of the five year old startup that's up pending up ending the medical apparel industry which directed consumer scrubs and and marketing campaigns this year is on track to make a hundred million in revenue and that was in two thousand and eighteen so it probably crushed it this year this week's episode is brought to you by our crowd do you wish you were 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to thirty three percent and then it would say like expected revenue and i was like what's that percentage and they go that's how much returns we're gonna we expect and so that's yeah it's crazy and with shoes shoes are the hardest thing maybe to buy probably pants for men and shoes they're probably like two of the harder things to sell online so i think it's a cool thing he just has to nail the fit like making sure that it it fits exactly trying shoes hard to sell online i feel like shoes are easy to sell online because no dude look at zap i shoes are the hardest thing i mean there's a lot of different categories and and types which is great but it's all about sizing like whenever i i ordered shoes i ordered a ten and a half and an eleven and i send one of them because sizes like okay all clothes need sizes and i feel like shoes is the one standard size whereas like a large for nike might be a totally different thing for under armour which might be totally a different thing for lulu lemon and whereas like a size nine shoe is meant to be a certain length and it's supposed to be more true to the number so i i i would have thought the opposite but okay who cares about that we're we don't i don't know fuck it what's interesting to me is if you go to figs these guys are selling these scrubs for thirty eight to forty six dollars you're gonna buy a bunch right because you need scrubs for every day that you go to work so if once you decide to opt into this like life of better looking scrubs you're gonna probably you end up spending i would guess something like five hundred dollars at figs whereas for ba hundred thirty dollar shoes you're probably not gonna buy as many pairs of pairs of these as you do your scrub so i think that's kind of one natural limit that these guys have on this yeah it's i'm looking at figs right now their website's freaking awesome i mean it makes you like kinda wanna become a nurse yeah seriously the for the homepage if you go to we r ball dot com i've you seen that like this woman walking out of these doors like i wanna walk out of every door like that this is a this is a great little landing page you could tell it's kinda work at nike yeah and figs is really cool too so i love this business did they raise money or is it just a i bootstrap i i kinda reached out to be like you y what's the what's the deal what else is like this what what other markets are like nurses right so nurses nurses is like huge workforce plus unique needs is there another one that's like this that that you can workers oil workers and it might be like jeans or it might be boots or it might be something like that yeah oil workers are quite okay so there's not quite the same there's two point eight million nurses in america there's probably only half a million oil workers but oil workers are interesting because the for nurses the barrier to entry is somewhat high but it's obviously less than a doctor oil workers the barrier to entry to become an oil worker is definitely like it's i have to come up with like a ratio of like how many jobs there are multiplied by barrier to entry to get that job multiplied by the income that they pay you do you what i mean oil workers is like one of those unique ones where it's like you can make eighty to ninety to a hundred grand a year without being you know for your education so oil workers is interesting what's another interesting one i was thinking restaurant like workers because i remember when i worked in restaurant literally the line cook guy was like y you need to get these shoes because i was like dying just standing for sixteen hours straight and you're just you can't sit down there's no sitting down in the kitchen and he's like oh he's like we have these mats on the floor that are these like special mats and they just used to buy the hospital shit they're like yeah this is for surgeons to stand on and so we stand on these and like these shoes these are like doctor shoes doctor clog i forgot what they were called they're like there's some specific brand they're like two hundred fifty dollars shoes and but he's like you need these otherwise you can't last in this business i agree that's a great idea and what i would do with the branding until i saw this when i saw this nurses thing i'm like oh you can make that cool as i would have this like because brush restaurant workers are slightly more masculine and slightly more edgy like because like you know when you go to after you get done and work at restaurant at two you just wanna get fucked up right like your coworkers exactly what they do yes that's what we would do when i worked at a restaurant and so i would say restaurant workers are interesting i would have this anthony boarding ish laugh yeah look i think that could be cool that would be a good great one what else is interesting i don't know but that's a good idea i tell you something a little bit similar so long story short this company ba sew into it go to the website check it out i really like that another thing that i've been thinking about is well there's this company called rig up do you know rig up we've we've talked about it before i don't know it well but i just know they crush it that's the only thing i know about it so what they're probably valued at three billion dollars they raised a lot of money from adjacent h which is a signal but not necessarily it means that it's great it's kind to be determined but i believe they make money by like they have like resources for oil workers are you going in into the website you can tell me what they do i think it's like they have job listings but then they also help with payroll right what do they do it with oil workers so i thought they were a a job like i thought they were kinda like a a a marketplace for for a job but it looks like they do a lot so solutions so they have i think they're basically building a network of like vendors workers and like hires or employers that do that does everything so it's like this is a way to hire this is a way to do safe this is a way to do like the kind of paperwork of onboarding all these all these workers i think it's trying to do all the things yeah and i love that business and i was thinking that you should i would wanna do this for nurses particularly travel nursing you travel nurses are no what is that so someone who's in the field is probably gonna say i'm butchering it but there's a hospitals like small town hospitals or even big cities like it fluctuates the amount of demand that they have for a nurse and so travel nurses will go from city to city to city and you live some for a month or three months at a time and you work at that hospital and they pay you a a higher rate because you're like a you know like a mercenary or like a like a navy seal you hop in and do your thing and make a bounce so i i think that that would be an interesting market to satisfy for credit with using this rig up model and then the other one is truckers i was just listening to the thing planet money i think it was and they were talking about the trucking industry and how truckers are like these companies are begging people to sign up for trucker to become a to work at their company because there's a deficit of truck at truckers people who wanna become truckers and the turnover rate is like a hundred percent a year right so the the average person will only work six to twelve months because they get treated horribly so anyway this whole rig up model i'm i was i'm i'm i love this model and i was thinking could i apply this to nurses and trucking the trucking industry right that's cool so what else we got so let me go to a different one this is kinda cool so we had talked about in the past how there's which one are you on this one right here there's a there's a listener for the podcast this guy named lat he's a he's pretty like clever guys he's built a bunch of different things in fact this was my only knock on him i've loved his hustle but then he built like five different products i was like wait are you just not sticking to any of these he built the church kinda tipping service that he was excited about that i think we talked about on the podcast he also built the erotic newsletter and advertised it through the porn sites and got that to being like five k six k a month of revenue around his erotic newsletter and so he's doing a bunch of things but he just posted an update you know few months later we i think we mentioned him four or five months ago yeah maybe and he he was like by the way update i sold it for seventy five k and i'm i'm out of the erotic newsletter business and i'm abusing that to fund my other business where yeah he so i didn't know he told it awesome to him he when he was telling me about this i was like dude fuck your other business do this yeah go for this one yeah who do did he sell it to yeah he said he sold some private buyer on a micro acquire which is like one of these little market for showing and selling businesses yeah good for him as and so yeah good for i just love the little like super simple success story right heard when we were talking about because we talked about novelty or the idea around kind of the the soft core porn market for for written fiction and whether you go like actually into erotic or you just kind of like get close and it's more like fifty shades of gray so heard that part heard us talking about newsletters as a simple wedge to start businesses i don't know if we were the the main expiration inspiration for or whatnot but oh definitely what yeah we we will say that we were for sure and and yeah good for him i love this see business so this guy how do you say his name i think it's lot lo he is british british right he lives in england yeah and so he's a black dude who lives in england so he decided to go after black women i think right mh and so it was for black niche black women and he got traffic from porn hub and i think he was charging fifty dollars a month for this newsletter right that's right yeah and maybe more or maybe i forget how much like a lot of money in all one thing he's doing a good job of is he's been working in public so even when he was like y he heard us talking about the digital tit apps or maybe he sent it in and then we talked about in the podcast he's like i'm gonna do this for for the uk there's no great service doing this the uk i'm gonna build this in every week he was posting these videos talking about his progress and so we saw it like both me and you are remember commented on these because he does a great job of working in public and getting you know energy behind what he's doing that's crazy i'm gonna write this i'm gonna tweet at him trump his main company i think it's called x po it's like a marketplace for influencers so same i think it's the same way you can buy facebook ads you can buy you can do like branded deals with influencers i think that's what he's going for in the uk market yeah i i'm pretty sure it's just cameo like and cameo now does this too where you just pay for a shout out as an influencer rather than like a personal video message and i think i don't know if he's differentiated it by the european focus or different set of influence i'm not but i saw a bunch of like british wrappers on his thing and i don't know cool that's crazy this he's a young guy i think like twenty four right i have no idea but i know in some of his videos his mom was in there or he he's talking to his mom and i don't know it's hilarious but shout to him that's awesome what's and by the way if you're listening to this i think everyone should not everyone a few more people should start this i think that i i genuinely think this this could be as big as crunchy what's the thing called crunchy crunchy roll crunchy roll which is like a billion dollar company i think this could be as big yeah that's actually just a great i know if this can be as big or not but regardless i think you could literally just restart the same business and build like like learn a whole bunch building a hundred thousands of dollars or a million dollar business if you just focused on this like i think he did it in his super spare time and he sold it but like i think somebody else can just do the next one of this and pick the next niche yeah i'm into that what's let's do a revisit all let's do the streaming solution okay so i don't know how long ago now maybe six seven months ago i talked about this idea which was i think there should be an app for company all hands yeah and i said this because you know when we were i was trying to i was trying to export ideas of or import so i said i'm at a big company what are the things i see or what are the problems i see we have what would we pay for a solution for and so i felt that company all hands were this like critical moment that happened every single week we did a full company all hands plus each individual department did their own all hands like every each month or so and oh sorry you really are in the suburbs okay business idea better doorbell belts that play not not lame music okay so so i was thinking okay you this is obviously a critical moment and there's all these things you have to think about right like you don't want other people logging in so you need like what they call sso single the single sign on service so only your employees can can log in to see it you need the video stream you need the recording if you if you missed it you need a way to do cute question and answer and we were stitching together four or five tools we use stream shark for the video we use poe for the questions we use this other thing for the sso like so at at that time i was like i think we should i think somebody could build an all hands app or streaming a streaming solution just for this because zoom is not enough i think you could charge companies for this now one thing that's changed is i don't know if you saw this but there was this big kinda like expose and verge about the facebook all hands leaks did you see this yeah well i didn't i i know i know i didn't read that but i know it's a problem and it's sucks because like sky can't be trent like why would does ceo i would tell the truth to their exactly so a few days ago casey newton i think is his name he's he's writer for the verge or something like that don't know maybe it's not the verge maybe it's not casey whatever fuck somebody wrote an article and they said hey for the last year i have had basically spies inside facebook sending me recordings of the all hands that's for the last last six months and i'm gonna write you know kind of an article and what he did was he wrote an article about the things that were being said with audio snippets from z talking at all hands that this person had recorded because now all all hands are done virtually so people just record on their computer like we're recording this podcast and and it was all about like oh facebook employees want him to be harder on trump and here's his response about why he's not gonna do it or you know doesn't facebook have an obligation to do this or like somebody asked a question they all sounds like should can we just buy an island so we can all just go back to work and just make a bubble like a bubble island for facebook and z like well you know like i don't think it'd would be a great idea for us to just like you know isolate ourselves from society i don't think that would be good in the long run even if we get back to work but it like taking out of the context all the things he's saying you just is this so easy to like evil suck so anyways that just to me highlights even more all that's gonna happen now is that companies are gonna dilute dilute their all hands they're not gonna be transparent they're gonna like corporate you know you know p r p r wash all their their answers in the q and a and everybody loses like the ceo has to be stressed about it the employees don't get real answers and shit's still probably gonna leak yeah so i think you you need to find a create the they'll killer feature now for this is leak proof all hands i i i i've researched this a bit and let me tell you what i would do but first a funny story about someone i used to talk to my friends at facebook and they z would do an in person all hands every friday at like two o'clock and like fifty people or twenty people would show up and i'm like are you kidding me like can you if you're telling me that i could go and talk to john rockefeller or andrew carnegie or something like every front like get your ass to that all heads it ask a question every single week and then just maybe z will be like you know you've been asking a lot of good questions talk to me after this let's see like you know what i mean like that could happen right and apparently like my my friend made a joke like it wasn't a joke he just told me he's like yeah someone today asked why the men's bathroom don't have tampon and mark's reply was like i can answer that question but like are you sure this is how you wanna spend your time like maybe you the head of a charge over there maybe you'd like to talk to her directly but and so like people would ask these questions like why is there why is the line for the pizza too long and i'd always like baffled me i'm like why are you not there every single week to talk to guys anyway i've thought about this so washington when jeff bezos bought the washington post he came up with this thing called arc it was their publishing system and a lot of publishers have tried to sell their cms and it's mostly a fruit list thing to do it's pretty stupid but no one does it right it's hard it's a hard business yada well they pivoted and what they're doing is selling to morgan stanley and large banks and they're creating like an internal high school newspaper so it's like a morgan stanley gets like a media or gets like a wordpress that's only for their employees so like all memos goes on there all hands would go on there and i think that's a great idea and i would model this sort of like a high school newspaper where it makes it easy to like give updates on the whole company very su distinctly and easily where you're where you're where your all hands are almost recorded like a podcast and they're uploaded very easily on that's what i would i would be could all try to figure out how to make it all very password protected but i think it's a great idea so so we talked a little bit about that i think that's cool i guess the key thing i'm trying to bring up is how do you make sure the shit doesn't leak and and the way you do that it password protected sure but you know you're it's employees who are leaking it's not an outside person so i think what you have to do is you have to unique watermark every single stream so the what the technology is gonna do let's say it's all hands video it's piping video to every single stream but there's a sort of invisible watermark crypto craft cache or something that if this got shared you would know who shared it there's a fingerprint attached to it and so same thing you could do the same thing with them memo which is something that's a digital only only it's basically only visible digitally it's not visible to the human eye but there's something that if you screenshot this if you share this if you record this we will ultimately know who shared it sounds a little big brother but i i don't know i'm i'm kind of on the company side here i think that totally bullshit that you can't like communicate freely like a few disgruntled people or bad eggs or people who want fame or whatever it is are gonna make it so that company just be like alright look we're just keeping it in the boardroom amongst the five of us then you guys get to know nothing you get to be you know worker bees that that don't get involved with yeah i mean going on to the company that's what i would do if i was these guys like look i've try to be transparent with everyone but like you know you really screw it up and you actually hurt yourself if you're an employee who owned shares like it makes us look stupid and you lit legitimately are going to lose money by talking about the shit because you make us look dumb because not is that a lot of context right and so fuck y'all like i ain't telling you shit like when you when when you hear about stuff that's when or you when everyone else hears about stuff that's when you're gonna hear about stuff right so i'm on i agree with you and i think it's an there is an interesting thing to do and i have seen bigger companies make their own stuff during quarantine so there are companies who have this need and like airbnb has an internal team building something like this interesting building it with the privacy protection or just like the in you mean the internal high school newsletters type thing i would say that like hacking together like tools to make like all hands internal columns work all hands specifically all hands easier yeah right that's a good i'm gonna write something down here you know it's good when i get an idea during the thing i'm like i gotta write this down okay cool so what else is interesting well you did it all most of the heavy lifting this time so let's just keep going down yours okay let's pick another one ones okay so couple cool little things i've been saying that to me saying okay this is where the future is going so i'm gonna talk about compose dot ai and s so what are these these are two different services that are doing the same thing i've seen now this week i've seen maybe five or six of these and i had never heard of this before and it's almost kinda laughable so what these are doing is is basically using ai ai to write your messages so i'll i'll i'll talk about the first one first so compose that ai what compose that ai is it says hey writing emails is important but man it's takes takes time like write a good email so here's what you do you just write you know little two word bullet points so you'll say like bullet point likes the design bullet point think we need to just you know like are we need to we need to work on the polish last one we should talk to steve and it takes those three bullet points and it makes a nicely written email this is hey sam thanks for sending over the designs i really liked it i do think we should talk to steve about whatever and it auto writes the email out of your bullet points and i thought this was kind of interesting and oh my god i'm looking at this you can see some examples on their website so oh dude guy this guy who created i knew i recognize his name's phil i think he's in our my first million group he's for sure a trend subscriber his name's phil he's a young kid like it like it looked looks like it looks kid yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i know this this is bad ass but is this of this i think this is something that is awesome and probably exists in the future given how many people i've seen working on this but good i bet it sucks out of the box i bet it like doesn't like you can't actually trust it to my email that's kind of my guess what do you think who surely they didn't do the is this slapped on top of open ai it might be i'm not sure if it's a gp three three or whatever thing or not because if they made that that seems like incredibly complicated no maybe i don't know like it it's so surprising to me like as a non technical person it's surprising to me like there's some things i'm like oh yeah just make it auto greet auto cut out my background and then people are like well that's yeah like that's a bad example but you know some people are like well that's fucking impossible you've asked for the impossible and it's like then other times they're like look we made this thing talk like obama and you can now make obama say whatever you want and i was like what how is that possible like yeah that's actually pretty easy to use some open source libraries and i it's like well what's what's mike's going on so i'm not technical enough to know what's easy and what's hard yeah that's kinda weird to me i think that as an email sending tool it's only like a it's like a toy to me like it's only okay but like i would love to know what is the technology behind it that is what is the most interesting to me to be honest it's kinda like if you can do this wow what else can what else can this do so then here's the other one so this other one's called dot io o and basically you just so there's just like this there's five thumbnails of like you know like generic looking woman generic man black man white asian woman white man whatever and you just pick like who you want your character who do you want to be your talker and it's like a real human it's not like an avatar and then you just write like you just write a script you're like you know my first billing is a great podcast because you know they brainstorm some ideas and it really gets the wheels turning hey and you just push enter and then this like woman who's a real person will then speak this in their voice with their lips moving and it looks quite real the way that the the demos look at least oh my god this is awesome so this is like you wanna it's instead of hiring somebody to do an explain video for your product or whatever you just have this like you know ai human saying your thing on demand i thought this was kinda cool although when i tried it it's like input this we have to approve it so you're not like abusing it and making this person say racist this shit and then we'll email you a video in two today i'm like oh that's kinda lame but i understand i don't understand i would say let them do it that is badass so i when i went to ces to or a year ago they maybe it was this company but one of them had this thing where they like had people they had like life size screens and it was a person like a park ranger as if it was like at a yosemite like explaining you know like how you had park rangers who like tell you like you know this part of the park is closed whatever and it had a park ranger welcoming you to the park and it looked totally real and they said everything everyone on here is made up and that was like the exhibit and it was amazing and i thought that was the most impressive thing so i think this is badass i think this is totally awesome some scary and awesome have you sean have you played with open ai at all i don't i don't i don't have access myself but for con and a few friends do and i've some sat with them and and they've showed me bunch of demos of what they were so i won't i won't pull mine up because i i have access to it is so sick it is so scary like i'll like say like like i'll tie like and i'll type like a speech like i'll i'll type like donald trump or like i'll take quotes from his a speech like i'll find a new york times article quote written about it and i'll just find some quotes and i'll just put in there and then it like writes a speech that donald trump would say or i'll write like i'll write like a like a manifesto like hillary clinton is going to ruin the world she is evil and women should not be in power white people are the supreme race like i'll write something like that and it creates like a manifesto about like it's like nuts it's nuts and it's like i mean of course i did that because like everyone's mind goes to evil or one time i wrote i went and found the lyrics of california love a two pack song and i just put like the first like stan of lyrics or no i did it with a who you know who what stands answer wet it's yeah it sad how does that go again it says for wet ass wet ass pussy by cardi b i took the lyrics of who you've never heard that song dude it's the most ra song ever i feel that i hope somebody cuts this part since this part to square oh like my god i took the lyrics of who and i put it into the thing and it auto edit it like it started riding this ra rap song about fucking dudes anyway it's awesome it's it's just amazing sorry we don't have to talk about what but i mean the it's the name of a song like i've got it's they of a song and i'm just talking about what i did so so what what are you doing with it besides you know these you know experiment two things use it two things i would what so i did this thing where i found famous advertisements and i told i wrote an at open ai this is a famous advertisement about volkswagen and i have and then i copy and pasted it and then i go now this is a famous advertisement about air table and and it wrote an ad about air table that was very similar to that famous volkswagen ad do you what i mean nice was it good it was so good and so i would also do like here are are ten viral headlines and i would read it or you don't have it pulled up i'll it up right now here are i would say and i i would also say like here are here are ten ten viral headlines and i would write the first viral headline that i had the idea for and they would make nine more that was similar to it but like then i be oh wow number eight's way better okay so check it out here's exactly what i told it great so same thing you just said you said i found the famous volkswagen i add told the machine to do it you put the whole ad in great and it said the i want me the whole thing but the volkswagen i missed the boat the chrome strip on the glove compartment is blemish and must be replaced every shock whatever and it like says about how how the voltage how what it's like it's like about how they look how they're they're focused on every little detail that's kinda what they're trying to say and the ad right yes and then here's and then i go air table and then i said now here's a great add about air table check it out okay so first okay so all you said so so i'll to go up a little bit this is all i all you told them about air table you said here's a great air table colon now you fill in the so you didn't tell it what air table is so it goes air table a new free service for collaboration on spreadsheets accurate but here's the thing you're working on a spreadsheet you need to collaborate with someone on the spreadsheet that's easy right crush mark just email it to them the problem is it's a spreadsheet so you attach it but what if you need to change it you need to send an update what if they need to update it you need to send another update what if you're both working it at the same time give send an update an update an update every single time no wonder we hate spreadsheets that's why we created what the fuck is going on alone it's not over we take the best of what spreadsheets are good at and combined it with the best of what collaboration controls are good at and we did it in a way that was so easy it makes you wonder why you haven't been using spreadsheets for collaboration all the along air table is a new free service for collaboration spreadsheets what yeah this is i had to do to many of them air table must have taken that must be an actual air table ad that they just took off the internet is that an actual if if that was created by ai we're all out of jobs just no jobs left i i have not found it anywhere like this is literally a oh my god this is a copy and paste of what i put into it like it's exactly what i put you know how when a fight breaks out and somebody's like world star that's what somebody needs to start doing for all these fucking open ai things that are amazing it's like your mind gets blown that my mind is blown right now dude did you not tweet this out and share this this is crazy i i didn't wanna give it away i don't know when i was i my mind was was definitely blown like my god like like what is this yeah it's another hold on have to do this this one too this is this is this most incredible thing ever seen alright so is this just you pushed enter again yeah what happened i then i wrote i go i wrote this is another advertisement for air table okay starts can i read this one too yeah okay this is a spreadsheet what do you wanna do with your life whatever it is chances are you're not doing it why the problem is you're stuck in a rut this one's a little different you have this one thing you wanna do and you're getting a little closer to doing it but then something happens a good idea but you have no way of recording it you have a brilliant plan but you can't organize it in a way that's useful to you're losing out but if you could make a spreadsheet you'd be on your way to achieving your goals but you don't have a you're probably working on a google spreadsheet and you don't even have that you're probably working on a word document or worse a notepad we think you deserve better that's why we created a air table it's a spreadsheet that you can organize however you want you can use it for your side hustle or for your startup you can use it for keeping track of your put club or your done done dungeons and dragons character you can use it to plan holidays or plan your funeral you can use it to build your on online store your tax turns blah blah alright as much of these you can use it to keep track of your money or your emotions you can use it to create a spreadsheet or to create a spreadsheet about spreadsheets it's the first and only spreadsheet for the rest of us now you see how it likes it it it the the cadence it's like it like it doesn't understand like some stuff like why a funeral like you don't wanna play like why you don't plan your funnel but it stole the cadence from the copy that i gave it yeah this is like a great copywriter who like you know it's a little too drunk yeah or like a copywriter who's like english as a for a second language right oh my god is sick man it's sick like and so what i'll do is i'll say like here are ninety nine headlines that are about to go viral and then you could just like it just makes random stuff and you like alright do that one do that one today we need to do okay every open to our podcast should be open ai written and every ad read should be open written like we should do nothing else besides this they yelled at me so i tweeted it out about it or i put it in the hustle like i i like said like this was written by open and sam alt d to me and was like hey can you please not like tell me when you're doing this we're supposed to doing a certain way and so that's why one the reasons why i haven't done it he said like like there's not the like i see public things all the time from it i don't know he yelled at me i i mean he's he didn't yell at me but he was like hey can you please you know calm completely damn me yeah he he figuratively yelled at me and so i have to figure out how to get around it like into play within the rules but they got pissed at me that's interesting because i've seen tons of people showing demos i on twitter and whatnot okay so we'll figure that out but but i have access huge you just blew my mind i can't there's no other topics i'm not doing any of the topics for the rest of the show of stopping i'm going to get some water i'm gonna walk around and then i'm gonna think about how my life is just yeah because when i played with that like it was crazy like it it legitimately like it's one of those few i i felt this way when i saw when i used a vr for the first time and it it's nuts it's like super nuts when like when i saw when when i got done playing with it i was like oh the world's different now like there was a pre there's gonna be a pre open world and a post open ai world here i know this was i just stepped into the post what just happened i just walked into the post and now i'm in this other world watch so what do you what do you want me to write like hate speech or like i mean that's what everyone does yeah yeah let's let's not do hate speech my i looked that's where you're had with that's well i automatically think like how's russia gonna use this okay so sam right he's in the open eye what they call the playground just like a text box where you fill in yu you'd give it a prompt or you give it a little bit of a premise and then you can prompt it like fill the so he's saying sc he's a podcast says he's a great dude pretty funny and has a popular podcast called my first million a podcast about business ideas here's what he told me about starting a business can you make can you make it more specific like starting like say what type of business like starting a a a newsletter business or starting a that sells scrubs to two nurses yeah okay here's what ai ai sean says i was working in i was working as a nurse in a hospital in small town kansas and i would always see these nurses with these scrub tops in pants that had their name on it looked like a great it looked like a great marketing opportunity i was sitting on my computer one day and i had a few extra bucks at my checking account so i decided to do a google search for scrub tops i was like there has to be a lot of money made money to be made here this is awesome i was able to find a company that was not just scrub talks tops but scrubs for the whole hospital so i thought even better i was like i can self scrubs to the whole hospital that's a amazing thank it has my life bro idiot cadence down perfect i started reaching out to different hospitals a clinics in area was he able to get the ball rolling and how do you how did you know your i get it's an interview so oh it's interviewing it's interviewing you oh cool so it says okay okay how did you oh yeah you do that part so it says how did you know you're onto to something sean well i went to a seminar where they were talking about the mind of the buyer if you could figure out what the buyer wants to hear you can say whatever you want and they'll believe you so what i did was i put up a website i i used i used a video on the website and i told the buyer exactly what they wanted to hear i said hey i can't believe it i just found a company that makes scrubs and scrubs for the whole hospital it really loves this like yeah like copies yeah you see it it's so anyway it's pretty interesting but why this is like where it gets crazy like if we don't brady have you played with this no like sean's reaction was crazy i should've have recorded mine because i've always been like robots the robots the fear of the robots and ai overrated well but i just saw this and it kinda changed me alright read this line sean alright so he goes sam just put it in donald trump is the best president ever if we don't him elect him again as a president america is gonna die in four years and then hope it hi fills it in it is the only hope for america the world is watching nice great great dramatic political speak america's is currently in the midst of a political battle that is seen by the whole world as a proxy war between the liberal democracy and total total total la okay in the past one years the world has been the world has seen the rise in political violence and authorities especially in the form of china in russia the rise of china and russia has been in part due to a lack of a strong american president world presence in world affairs that's gonna be said at the debate america's has been at war for two or twenty five years this does not include many smaller conflicts over the past two or twenty seven years random so if we don't like donald trump is president the world will probably end in four years america will be enslaved under under this regime this is why i think the two twenty twenty election is the most important election in american history wow and it warns us this may contain sensitive content which is true let me try one more thing you're gonna put a lot i well no i think i am limited to two thousand words but that's a lot right that's a huge amount like you're probably doing fifty words right now this whole text box can only contain two thousand words so watch this watch this here are ninety nine viral headline ideas watch this okay here here's okay so he inputs here's what happened to your favorite nineties tv star seven things you didn't know about watermelon or you want parenthesis you won't believe numbers i don't make eight that's hilarious alright number four yep okay so we gave it two viral click baby headlines then it gives us the most shocking discovery of the year ten things you didn't know about the world's oldest profession that would work a shocking reason why you shouldn't eat at this restaurant that would work here's three things you could do with that old cell phone that would work great what is another one the ten most disturbing sports injuries ever ten things you didn't know about beer the the five biggest mistakes you can make when you're falling in love viral already yep it's a it's right this secret weapon can help you lose five pounds done clicked wow dude this is so good yeah it's amazing this is so good oh my god okay this might be a boring podcast for be to listen to now because i'm just like you know reeling from what you just showed me but okay i have to get access to this this is a wait let's change we'll do one last one oh that's not gonna be that good okay this got a funny so you put in here ninety nine ways to make a million dollars a year and it's it goes number one write a good book number two write a bad book number three start a blog number four start vlog about cats number five start vlog about hating cats number six start to blog about hating dogs and cats yeah okay it's spinning out of control now yeah so you could see it's like not there yet but it's almost there like the bones are there yeah wow okay incredible to the geniuses at open ai who are working on this you know props props to you i hope you hope you listen to this and i hope you give me access tomorrow i haven't applied yet but i hope you give me access alright this was a good episode i think thank you everyone for listening by the way i would if if you happen to make it this far please leave us a review i love reading the reviews because it that's like how i understand if we're on the right track or not yeah just call us w in the review have you really not heard that it's like a it's like a cultural phenomenon it's like it's like this is like when i discovered thought dude that's crazy you don't know what a w is sarah's lap in the backup it's like it's like number one on spotify i dude it's like the the music video it's like the most ra video i've ever heard i don't even to listen to music i to like old warren buffett all hands meeting tapes yeah but i'm free well i don't know what to say man i mean maybe your wife probably what it is but like this is like what the kids do excellent okay alright sam i'll see you later okay bye bye